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campbell's avatar

a lengthy, worthy read. fine fellow indeed, and yea, Fullbore!

HMSLion's avatar

This hits hard, I live in Deep Southern Maryland. The places are familiar to me.

Note that Barney’s men fought ashore as an organized unit, not parceled out piecemeal as IAs.

John C. Lamb's avatar

As a landlubber, my vote is that the new LCS or new icebreakers could proudly resurrect the name USS Barney

LT NEMO's avatar

I'd not sully the name of Commodore Barney with an LCS. And and an icebreaker, even heavily armed seems unworthy.

A Burke class DDG would do just fine.

Andy's avatar

Keeping in the spirit of the campaign we might want to name one of the LSMs or other upcoming small amphibs after him. Its a gamble, but the name of a leader might point the way.

LT NEMO's avatar

Fair enough. A gator would be a fitting tribute.

D. E. Day's avatar

Excellent story. A story that should be required reading for all of our Marines, Sailors, and Soldiers. Furthermore, it should be a battle study for all students of amphibious and insurgency warfare.

Bradley A Graham's avatar

This past summer I read Barbara W. Tuchman's book......"First Salute ".

Until then I had no idea how close to defeat the Continentals were and how crucial French and Dutch commitment to the revolution was.

Thousands of unsung warriors that deserve their country's reverence and gratitude.

LT NEMO's avatar

Thus is it always. It's not the people and events that are widely known that are the real story, but rather the many smaller events and unknown people that make the real stories of victory or defeat.

That's largely why I've come to focus on the memoirs and biographies of the average Joes. They typically acted within the framework of the bigger history you know, but but a real human face and perspective on how it was really done.

Happily, with modern publishing becoming much like the music business, it is a lot easier for people to publish these stories which generally appeal to a limited market but through the magic of Amazon can potentially reach hundreds of millions of people.

WindowsoftheWorld's avatar

This little tidbit of almost forgotten history portrays a much different picture of what I had learned in Mil Sci 201. It doesn't sound like the "Blandenburg Races" at all.

LT NEMO's avatar

Well, sounds like you were reading Army history there. I can see why this might not be included.

LT NEMO's avatar

The Naval Service shines through the dark from the earliest days of the Republic.

Fullbore!

M. Thompson's avatar

Truly fullbore.

Discipline, leadership, and trusting your subordinates. Commodore Barney knew he was best with the guns, and let his Marine subordinate lead the infantry.

Jim Murphy's avatar

Fascinating. Thank you for pulling this together. We need to think out of the box.

Simon Tanner's avatar

This post makes me happy. I love the brown water navy, and I love scrappy people with a mind for irregular warfare.

Scott Shart's avatar

Knew a guy who had been First Lieutenant in the USS LA SALLE when it was the command ship for COMMIDEASTFOR. One of his duties was to train and have ready a navy landing force.

Looked around online and it looks like we last had a Landing Party Manual in 1960, or maybe it has been replaced? If not, maybe time to dust it off.

JohnC's avatar

"we have not had a USS Barney since 1992."

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But we did have a USS Milk.

Look, the US Navy has been very unfair and racist, to the point of refusing to recognize bravery (Doris Miller anyone?) when captains were given the Medal of Honor for simply dying on the bridge.

Can't we all agree, however, that real heroism should be continuously recognized?

Chap's avatar

I take your point about Milk, but why diss Gilmore? His story is worth a Fullbore Friday indeed.

JohnC's avatar

Fair enough. I was focused on Barney. No side-blast intended.

I'm still irritated that we don't have a big-assed destroyer named the Maine. Yeah, there's a boomer, and that will do, but Mainers always had a mind set of "Hey diddle-diddle, right up the middle."

Humor me.

Dale Flowers's avatar

USS Barney (DDG-6) was our sister ship when was on DDG-5. Never knew the name origin until now.