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Aviation Sceptic's avatar

A well planned, expertly executed raid by some of the world's best at what they do: The SAS. In and out with no casualties and all mission objectives complete. I have no doubt the unit has the capability to pull something like this off today. Not sure the MoD has the ba...er...audacity, and the rest of the UK military has the mission support capability to even attempt it. Do we call it Falklands or Malvinas today? What about tomorrow?

OrwellWasRight's avatar

They did until they all started resigning because Starmer's government decided to start pressing charges against them for military activities

Jerome Busch's avatar

The investigation has been since 2022 led by Lord Justice Haddon-Cave. That inquiry into SAS behavior is still ongoing as of late 2025. The inquiry follows allegations that SAS units murdered detainees and unarmed civilians, including children in Afghanistan between 2010 and 2013.

Starmer became Prime Minister of the UK on July 5, 2024-a little late in the game to carry the freight of conspiracy for dubious battle. Apparently, SAS personnel are on the run, not a narrative that is helpful to an innocence project.

Bear's avatar

Propaganda from an enemy foreign and domestic is doubtful.

People die in wars, but Islam seems to manufacture deaths claiming murders for use as another weapon.

Jerome Busch's avatar

Same jihadis, but apparently more believable back when they were the Afghan Mujahideen trying to close a pipeline deal with Union Oil in Houston in 1997.

Bear's avatar

Proof? Cite Data please.

Jerome Busch's avatar

Radio Free Europe [don't have access to Stratfor any more]

Radio Liberty

March 23, 2020 09:22 CET

"In the mid-1990s, U.S. oil company Unocal attempted to secure a gas-pipeline deal with the Taliban, which had seized control of the Afghan capital, Kabul, after a devastating civil war.

It was the United States' first attempt to forge a partnership with the fundamentalist Taliban regime, which was not recognized by the international community.

Unocal even flew senior Taliban members to Texas in 1997 in an attempt to come to an agreement.

Zalmay Khalilzad, who had served as a State Department official when Ronald Reagan was president, worked as a consultant for the now-defunct company."

Negotiations over the pipeline collapsed in 1998, after Al-Qaeda bombed two U.S. embassies in Africa and President Clinton responded by sending cruise missiles into Afghanistan in an attempt to kill Osama bin Laden.

OrwellWasRight's avatar

Sure they were more believable 30 years ago; we hadn't been working around them for 30 more years, lol.

Seriously though, most of them cannot be believed in these matters.

OrwellWasRight's avatar

Fair enough on Starmer specifcally

Bear's avatar

Tomorrow is another day LOL and things will not go as well for the UK.

Lets hope the islands will transfer peacefully with no battles sound.

Les Taylor's avatar

So much history of daring and courageous acts dribbling off the margins of history's page. In particular, I remember a video recount of the transit of the Vulcans and their Handly-Page refueling support and the musical chairs of diversion and RTB of some of both; of the difficulties and of the final success that clearly marked the progress of the decline of Royal forces which has led the Brits to where they are today

Bradley A Graham's avatar

Bloody good show. I got smashed with some lads from 42 Commando when they visited Norfolk and they are of the same caliber.

But what concerns me is the recent and reoccurring efforts to charge certain members of the British military with war crimes.

Public Interest Lawyers, current AG Lord Richard Hermer, Phil Shaver and other parasites have made it their bread and butter to crucify Tommies from Afghanistan, Iraq and Northern Ireland for violations. I'm sure they're looking into any from the Falklands. It's bad enough facing kinetic action from the enemy without having your own countrymen trying to draw and quarter you based on dubious witnesses and accounts.

How audacious and effective are future operations going to be when everything you do is scrutinized with end result being a long prison sentence.

Who Dares Wins !

OrwellWasRight's avatar

A lot of them are getting out because of it too.

Bradley A Graham's avatar

Exactly.

" The poor die defending the rules that keep them poor because they mistake obedience for belonging"

George Orwell

Eugene Podrazik's avatar

The SAS destroyed enemy aircraft than did the RAF in North Africa.

billrla's avatar

One of these days, I will get around to reading Max Hasting's book, "The Battle for the Falklands." It's been sitting in my Amazon cart for long time. Today, the Brits would have a tough time re-taking Guernsey.

John King's avatar

A number of books also detail the effort to "take ships up from trade" to supplement the British supply and logistics needed, without which naval combatants and supporting forces CAN'T stay on station and win the war.

OrwellWasRight's avatar

Didn't they commander the QE2?

John King's avatar

See above Order of Battle link.

Bear's avatar

I picked it up at our local library and read it long ago it was a good insightful book.

Jetcal1's avatar

Retaking the Falklands was a much more close run thing for the UK than is generally acknowledged. Yet, in any war it's the small skirmishes like this raid that contribute to the whole. Those ten light COIN aircraft could have raised some havoc.

KenofSoCal's avatar

The UK did very well with what they had then. Today's PM and his fellow travelers are more concerned with persecuting/prosecuting veterans of Afghanistan, Ireland or Iraq on trumped up war-crime/human rights charges and denying or giving away bases of an ally. The RN surface and submarine fleets is in worse condition than 1982. They have Russian elements [or home -grown anarchists] sniffing around their bases and are just about helpless to do any thing about it.

John S.'s avatar

"Who dares, wins."

Trouble is that daring individuals can come from any nation, and their acts may be visible and deliberate in a declared war, or unexpected and plausibly deniable as to the perp's affiliation and motivation. Remember, we have a whole lotta illegal immigrants running around somewhere, who may plan on being here for a short time, or deep sleep. Many speak Chinese and lot speak Arabic or Farsi, or just Mexican cartel lingo.

Now, much of the U.S. aerial forces are in the reserve programs. That includes most of our aerial refuelers, most of the A-10s, and lots of other aircraft. These are spread out at mainly commercial airports all over the country, and I doubt if base security standards are all that impressive.

While the Falklands raiders had to hop up on the aircraft to disable them, it would be easy these days to destroy or seriously damage aircraft either that old fashioned way, or with shoulder fired LAW type weapons, or a dozen or so drones- engaged singly, serially, not even a sophisticated swarm.

I truly hope we have lots of people staying up at nights finding preventive measures to such attacks. Of course, keeping potential attackers out of the country is a good start.

Jerome Busch's avatar

Illegals are a poor choice for deep sleepers when you can by your way to permanent residency for about $1 million under EB-5 as an "investor". EB-5 investors must create at least 10 full-time, qualifying jobs for U.S. workers, which includes U.S. citizens, lawful green card holders, asylees, or even refugees. A whole sleeper cell cover for the EB-5 and his 10 minions for $1M. Bring more money and hire more refugees and the present administration will not only encourage them to come but will teach Signal for use in the office space leased next to the Pentagon.

M. Thompson's avatar

Pros doing hard work with skill. In 2003 I went to IWM Duxford. A much abused Pucara was part of the collection there.

Bear's avatar

Indeed! The last great battles of the British empire went well.

The good old days.