Do we know where the 14 MOPs were dropped? The CJCS seemed to say the Estafan strike was all tomahawks and we have 6 holes at Fordow. Is that 6 MOPs or 12 MOPs, 2 in each hole? am assuming whatever remainder went to the 3rd site
Looking forward to this episode - I won a bet (with myself) guessing that if we were gonna go kinetic it was gonna happen before the week was over - gotta maintain the momentum created by the IDF. A bit surreal texting a work buddy who is USNR and arrived in theater a month ago - he’s waiting for the Iranian response.
If I was a betting man, I’d wager those IDF strikers have been plugging off USAF tankers - time will tell.
Islamist Iran has been a thorn in our side (and the world’s) for nearly 50 years: my first skipper in the fleet was the son of one of the “Guests of Ayatollah”; my older sister’s teacher in elementary school spent a spell in protective custody after somebody tried to carbomb her family (husband was a prominent CG CO who claimed Aegis first confirmed “kill”) - seemingly we’ve reached the moment in history where all debts are being settled regarding the Iranian regime.
Please, read between the lines and you will understand that without saying several MOP Bunker busters were used.
The target sites, controlled by the Houthis, were buried deep underground, said the Pentagon press secretary during a briefing today.
U.S. military forces, including U.S. Air Force B-2 bombers, conducted precision strikes against five hardened underground weapons storage locations in Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen,"
"U.S. forces targeted several of the Houthis' underground facilities housing various weapons components of the types the Houthis have used to target civilian and military vessels throughout the region."
This is nowhere near enough Payback for Beirut. Sorry but extremely bad equivalency.
Only a full gutting of the whole IRGC along with a full blood letting in the most horrific means & methods possible of the Supreme Leader, President, FM, Guardianship of Jurists, Assembly of Experts, & Majlis.
"I’d wager those IDF strikers have been plugging off USAF tankers"
"Israel’s Air Force has conducted over 600 mid-air refueling operations to sustain combat missions deep in Iranian territory during Operation Rising Lion. "
All politics / opinions aside, isn't it refreshing to see us keep people guessing as to what we will do next? Instead of publicly and loudly announcing that "certain actions are off the table". If nothing else, it keeps our military folks safer by being unpredictable and having "surprise" as an arrow in the quiver. Interesting that a lot of "leaks" and "leakers" seem to have been taken out of play when we slimmed down the NSC. Tough to believe we'd have that many people willing to speak out of school, but the facts speak for themselves. It appears that Trump learned a lot during his first term. It also appears that a lot of his opponents have been slow to realize how much he learned.
NSC leakers…..” must be the money” ….our last admin and elements of the current one run on the monetization of their positions. Someone suggested lie detector tests for government officials, I ve come around to thinking that s the only way to fix our governments
- We were ALLOWED to bomb a mountain with nothing in it and to little effect.
- We fired some increasingly obsolete tomahawks into the
desert.
- We have finally destroyed what little national credibility we had left. Russia had their Mink moment and Iran has this. No
more negotiation and like Russia only capitulation of the enemy will be accepted by Iran now.
- We have shown we do not
bother following international laws and norms. Unprovoked attacks on other nations is a war crime and NO ONE outside our american echo chamber sees it otherwise except our vassals...
- Zion Don has let MAGA know who OWNS him now. Bibi is his master and not us.
Good strike. for all the folk that fuss over the "we voted for no more forever wars!" routine; y'all were always whistling past the graveyard on this. It was going to be done. always. the only question was,.....when?
I have heard others go on about how this is so much "like Iraq", where supposedly, we went into Iraq because Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, which was a "Lie!".
No, it was not. Mustard gas is one of those types of weapons, and Saddam both had me and used em. that those, or other weapons of like type, were either sold off, moved away, or destroyed before we blindly stumbled into country........is.......moot. They DID exist, at some time.
and we should have gotten out immediately after not "finding" them. immediately.
Disregarding the wisdom of going into Iraq...and it was most UNWISE..... that those weapons "weren't there!" ....was the result of faulty TIMELY intelligence. a mistake, not a lie.
Iran was developing nuclear weapons. truth.
it could not be permitted to continue. truth.
so, good strike.
alas, however..........since rebuilding their facilities will take too much time and money....what is left of Iran will now simply gather up a whole lot of money........and go BUY nukes from North Korea.
My brother was in Desert storm and attached as cover for a Mounted unit after going over the berm the Fox vehicles detected Mustard gas which was found to be in a lot of land mines. Totally combat ineffective mines but they were there.
Good Evening CDR Salamander, will the Mess Steward be bringing us our “Usual Ice Cream Sundays” to help us sleep through the night? NOAA Ship Researcher was my best voyage ever!
About Iraq; yes, I’m that Navy Nurse at the not so great Johns Hopkins who took care of this young poor male soul dying from rapid onset dementia courtesy of the “Burn Pits”!
About Iran and that little “Red Line in the Sand”… be careful! Watch your 6 o’clock! Remember to hose down yourselves and bag your uniforms for the Laundry Steward to collect!
Hydrate 16 ounces of water, three times per day. Please tend to both your feet! Carry with you three pairs of socks! Clean your feet daily and keep your toe nails short! Nurse Jane will light the way forward, leaving no “Buddy” behind! Amen
Satellites and drones can spot movement from those sites and follow them then strike them.
Scuttlebutt said there was a fierce ground combat action at Fordow by unknown forces twelve hour before the MOP strike went in. Perhaps those bugout trucks were trying to leave or the scientists were unassing the AOE.
This is the standard slur AIPAC shills cough up when patriots get tired of duel citizens like yourself betray or trust and bribe our leadership. IF you want to fight iran and genocide folks in Gaza do it on your own dime....
"As illustration, one day I got a call from the Secretary. He said, "I understand bombers cannot operate without fighter escort." On his staff he had no air Force representative, and the Navy was always working to be the principal reason they fought so hard against the B-36, which had very long range. The reason they worked for the B-47 was, although a fine airplane, the first jet bomber, it only had medium range. The B-36 was intercontinental."
Again....this is AIPAC shill talking points. When American patriots point out Israel is a black hole and has cost America trillions and needless wars all we get is shaming. Sorry, not working buddy. If Israel wants to pick a losing fight with Iran that's not America's problem. $10 a gallon gasoline we cannot afford....
Again the AIPAC talking points are past their sell by date.... If Israel wants to launch an unprovoked war with Iran they are free to do so...THEMSELVES. You AIPAC shills don't seem to get a clue. You have cost this nation trillions for no benefit but defeat and dishonor.
If America stopped supporting the public genocide of 2 million men, women and children NO ONE would be calling America anything but America... Actions have consequences
Nice try but no dice. Anti-semitism was a termed coined in Germany in the 19th century and it meant one and only one group of people. Keep trying, but stop foaming at the mouth.
This must be hard for you with all the cognitive dissonance...your trying (and failing) to shame a patriotic American for pointing out, as 80% of us do, that YOU support and approve the GENOCIDE of 2 million semites in Gaza. Does support for murder like that bother you...?
during the Falkland Island's war the RAF flew non-stop from England to the Falklands to bomb the airstrip. Was this same distance as flown by the B-2s. The Falkland's flight took 16.5 hours. I've heard 30+ hours for the Iranian mission. I believe that was roundtrip. both were incredible missions
Again...AIPAC shills trying to sell Israel's genocide in Gaza and the disastrous unprovoked attack on Iran really need to stop now.... YOU behavior in the middle east has cost America trillions and horrific damage to our international standing. Only a fools takes USA at its word now. We have also shown we are a paper tiger and run at the sound of the first IRBM...
Do we know where the 14 MOPs were dropped? The CJCS seemed to say the Estafan strike was all tomahawks and we have 6 holes at Fordow. Is that 6 MOPs or 12 MOPs, 2 in each hole? am assuming whatever remainder went to the 3rd site
It was stated two hit Natanz, and someone showed a sat pick with a hole over the underground site, the other 12 to Fordow.
Looking forward to this episode - I won a bet (with myself) guessing that if we were gonna go kinetic it was gonna happen before the week was over - gotta maintain the momentum created by the IDF. A bit surreal texting a work buddy who is USNR and arrived in theater a month ago - he’s waiting for the Iranian response.
If I was a betting man, I’d wager those IDF strikers have been plugging off USAF tankers - time will tell.
Islamist Iran has been a thorn in our side (and the world’s) for nearly 50 years: my first skipper in the fleet was the son of one of the “Guests of Ayatollah”; my older sister’s teacher in elementary school spent a spell in protective custody after somebody tried to carbomb her family (husband was a prominent CG CO who claimed Aegis first confirmed “kill”) - seemingly we’ve reached the moment in history where all debts are being settled regarding the Iranian regime.
-Scoobs
We'll have different fireworks on No Kings Day!
BTW, before anyone starts bleating about 'impeachment', keep in mind that Biden dropped a MoP on Yemen and nobody seemed to notice....
You have a source on that one?
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3938958/us-strikes-underground-targets-in-yemen/
No mention of MOP, just B-2. No need to expose an F-15 with a 5000lb bunker buster when the B-2 can do it safest.
Please, read between the lines and you will understand that without saying several MOP Bunker busters were used.
The target sites, controlled by the Houthis, were buried deep underground, said the Pentagon press secretary during a briefing today.
U.S. military forces, including U.S. Air Force B-2 bombers, conducted precision strikes against five hardened underground weapons storage locations in Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen,"
"U.S. forces targeted several of the Houthis' underground facilities housing various weapons components of the types the Houthis have used to target civilian and military vessels throughout the region."
And legally there is no difference between Trump now and Clinton with Sudan in 1998.
Thanks, forgot about that one.
Payback for the Beirut Marine Barracks massacre. I am enjoying the long awaited Riposte.
The IDF targeted the IRGC headquarters without issuing their usual warning to leave.
Seems fair.
Yes, revenge is a dish best served cold.
This is nowhere near enough Payback for Beirut. Sorry but extremely bad equivalency.
Only a full gutting of the whole IRGC along with a full blood letting in the most horrific means & methods possible of the Supreme Leader, President, FM, Guardianship of Jurists, Assembly of Experts, & Majlis.
"I’d wager those IDF strikers have been plugging off USAF tankers"
"Israel’s Air Force has conducted over 600 mid-air refueling operations to sustain combat missions deep in Iranian territory during Operation Rising Lion. "
https://www.jfeed.com/news-israel/sy2d4g
All politics / opinions aside, isn't it refreshing to see us keep people guessing as to what we will do next? Instead of publicly and loudly announcing that "certain actions are off the table". If nothing else, it keeps our military folks safer by being unpredictable and having "surprise" as an arrow in the quiver. Interesting that a lot of "leaks" and "leakers" seem to have been taken out of play when we slimmed down the NSC. Tough to believe we'd have that many people willing to speak out of school, but the facts speak for themselves. It appears that Trump learned a lot during his first term. It also appears that a lot of his opponents have been slow to realize how much he learned.
or worse, drawing red lines and nary a peep when the bad guys, stare at you and step over the red line
I worry there are too few people in the room. Marco is 1 head in 2 seats. If other seats are empty it has to be hard to see the whole chess board.
Don’t tell democrats anything and you won’t have any leaks.
Or the National Security Advisor. Or The SecDef.
Our current SecDef and NSA are on board with the OpSec.
NSC leakers…..” must be the money” ….our last admin and elements of the current one run on the monetization of their positions. Someone suggested lie detector tests for government officials, I ve come around to thinking that s the only way to fix our governments
Looks like Syria all over again..
just with more serious consieuence...to us.
- We were ALLOWED to bomb a mountain with nothing in it and to little effect.
- We fired some increasingly obsolete tomahawks into the
desert.
- We have finally destroyed what little national credibility we had left. Russia had their Mink moment and Iran has this. No
more negotiation and like Russia only capitulation of the enemy will be accepted by Iran now.
- We have shown we do not
bother following international laws and norms. Unprovoked attacks on other nations is a war crime and NO ONE outside our american echo chamber sees it otherwise except our vassals...
- Zion Don has let MAGA know who OWNS him now. Bibi is his master and not us.
The PR spin is indeed most impressive however...
Why do you hate Jews so much?
The sum of what you state is TDS plain and simple and Antisemitism on the level of George Goebbels.
What time are the protests and riots you will be leading start?
Good strike. for all the folk that fuss over the "we voted for no more forever wars!" routine; y'all were always whistling past the graveyard on this. It was going to be done. always. the only question was,.....when?
I have heard others go on about how this is so much "like Iraq", where supposedly, we went into Iraq because Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, which was a "Lie!".
No, it was not. Mustard gas is one of those types of weapons, and Saddam both had me and used em. that those, or other weapons of like type, were either sold off, moved away, or destroyed before we blindly stumbled into country........is.......moot. They DID exist, at some time.
and we should have gotten out immediately after not "finding" them. immediately.
Disregarding the wisdom of going into Iraq...and it was most UNWISE..... that those weapons "weren't there!" ....was the result of faulty TIMELY intelligence. a mistake, not a lie.
Iran was developing nuclear weapons. truth.
it could not be permitted to continue. truth.
so, good strike.
alas, however..........since rebuilding their facilities will take too much time and money....what is left of Iran will now simply gather up a whole lot of money........and go BUY nukes from North Korea.
My brother was in Desert storm and attached as cover for a Mounted unit after going over the berm the Fox vehicles detected Mustard gas which was found to be in a lot of land mines. Totally combat ineffective mines but they were there.
Sarin too. Once a few of our troops were injured by an IED that was an old degraded binary nerve agent shell.
And yes, we bungled the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq. The Germany and Japan templates did not apply.
Good Evening CDR Salamander, will the Mess Steward be bringing us our “Usual Ice Cream Sundays” to help us sleep through the night? NOAA Ship Researcher was my best voyage ever!
About Iraq; yes, I’m that Navy Nurse at the not so great Johns Hopkins who took care of this young poor male soul dying from rapid onset dementia courtesy of the “Burn Pits”!
About Iran and that little “Red Line in the Sand”… be careful! Watch your 6 o’clock! Remember to hose down yourselves and bag your uniforms for the Laundry Steward to collect!
Hydrate 16 ounces of water, three times per day. Please tend to both your feet! Carry with you three pairs of socks! Clean your feet daily and keep your toe nails short! Nurse Jane will light the way forward, leaving no “Buddy” behind! Amen
One can hide processed uranium almost anywhere. Trucks were hauling stuff out of Fordow for days before the strike.
I have a seam of it in some petrified wood in a drawer somewhere.
Yeah, you can hide tanks full of a corrosive, toxic and radioactive gas in your kitchen, under the pots and pans.
Satellites and drones can spot movement from those sites and follow them then strike them.
Scuttlebutt said there was a fierce ground combat action at Fordow by unknown forces twelve hour before the MOP strike went in. Perhaps those bugout trucks were trying to leave or the scientists were unassing the AOE.
I have been searching the internet . . . and no ASW weapons employed form space seems to be listed . . . HUMM!
When last I check ASW weapons from space seemed to be in short supply.
This is the standard slur AIPAC shills cough up when patriots get tired of duel citizens like yourself betray or trust and bribe our leadership. IF you want to fight iran and genocide folks in Gaza do it on your own dime....
You really hate Jews? Why?
... total head count for B-21s says what?
It was done because it had to be done, and done well.
If Iran attacks us with Sleeper cells Then that is an act of war and the US will declare war on Iran.
This will open targets on infrastructure, bridges railheads, oil platforms and oil refineries until Iran is financially ruined.
If Iran attempts to close the straits of Hormuz, then their launchers and their Navy will be destroyed along with their bases and ports.
There is no way Iran can survive this and they need to STFU and STFD and listen.
A master play for sure!
The Iranians forgot about Praying Mantis...
But the USN sure did...
Its 2025, and Stuart Symington is finally winning the argument:
https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/library/oral-histories/symton
"As illustration, one day I got a call from the Secretary. He said, "I understand bombers cannot operate without fighter escort." On his staff he had no air Force representative, and the Navy was always working to be the principal reason they fought so hard against the B-36, which had very long range. The reason they worked for the B-47 was, although a fine airplane, the first jet bomber, it only had medium range. The B-36 was intercontinental."
The Ford completed her COMPTUEX over a month ago.
Where is she today?
One of the latest pics I can find...
https://www.dvidshub.net/image/9048095/rear-adm-lemmon-visits-uss-gerald-r-ford
(Aging "Top Guns" need to ditch the flightsuits unless they are actually in the cockpit. Its reminiscent of the old guy in his speedo at the beach.)
Again....this is AIPAC shill talking points. When American patriots point out Israel is a black hole and has cost America trillions and needless wars all we get is shaming. Sorry, not working buddy. If Israel wants to pick a losing fight with Iran that's not America's problem. $10 a gallon gasoline we cannot afford....
And who are these so called patriots? David Duke. Louis Farrakhan? Al Sharpton? The Squad?
Again the AIPAC talking points are past their sell by date.... If Israel wants to launch an unprovoked war with Iran they are free to do so...THEMSELVES. You AIPAC shills don't seem to get a clue. You have cost this nation trillions for no benefit but defeat and dishonor.
Those crowds in Tehran were calling America the Great Satan and Israel the Little Satan. Seems we are in this together.
If America stopped supporting the public genocide of 2 million men, women and children NO ONE would be calling America anything but America... Actions have consequences
Why do you hate Jew so much?
Those AIPAC shills just don't get it...and they don't know why their shaming falls flat. Let me help you here. Palestinians are. Semitic
.....oooops
Nice try but no dice. Anti-semitism was a termed coined in Germany in the 19th century and it meant one and only one group of people. Keep trying, but stop foaming at the mouth.
This must be hard for you with all the cognitive dissonance...your trying (and failing) to shame a patriotic American for pointing out, as 80% of us do, that YOU support and approve the GENOCIDE of 2 million semites in Gaza. Does support for murder like that bother you...?
during the Falkland Island's war the RAF flew non-stop from England to the Falklands to bomb the airstrip. Was this same distance as flown by the B-2s. The Falkland's flight took 16.5 hours. I've heard 30+ hours for the Iranian mission. I believe that was roundtrip. both were incredible missions
Again...AIPAC shills trying to sell Israel's genocide in Gaza and the disastrous unprovoked attack on Iran really need to stop now.... YOU behavior in the middle east has cost America trillions and horrific damage to our international standing. Only a fools takes USA at its word now. We have also shown we are a paper tiger and run at the sound of the first IRBM...