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Robert Arvanitis's avatar

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Same as the irredeemable scorpion with the frog.

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William Barrett's avatar

Sal,

I honestly think we are over-focusing on what Hamas planned to get out of this. Hamas leadership are beholden to Iran, and the rank and file just want to kill Jews.

The more important way to look at this is as COA from an IRANIAN planning perspective.

In that respect, I think the goal for the operation, from the start was deliberately to provoke a massive Israeli ground response.

Were it not for the hostages, Israel could tighten the screws, sit back and pick off Hamas leadership with drones and airstrikes while reinforcing the border. They could open the spigot on humanitarian supplies to lessen world condemnation, and then just begin an unrelenting air campaign that everyone would mostly tune out after the first month, provided it remained 'surgical'.

Taking the hostages was the deliberate play to ensure Israel would have to invade, while also giving Hamas some sort of leverage. the barbaric cruelty was DESIGNED to provoke an emotional response from Israel.

Iran - and Hamas - WANT a ground war in Gaza, because they think it lets them inflame the passions of the arab - and to some extent the entire muslim - street.

They WANT to re-awaken global jihad against the west.

See, as I posted earlier in response to a question about whether Sunni or Shiite extremism was the greater threat, for the most part, AlQaida, AQAP, ISIS, etc, became locked into the 'Anti-West (Anti US)' struggle, and for many, Israel became a backwater issue.

Iran despises the West and especially the US. I'm certain they are sincere in their hatred of Israel ass well, but it is a part of their larger hatred of the West.

But Iran recognized that the arab nations were willing to reconcile with Israel, and put aside the Palestinian issue.

But most arab/muslim populations have NOT forgotten. For the people of those countries, their leadership is 180 from them. The peoples of those countries would focus far more on Israel than on the west.

And so, Iran's plan is to draw Israel into a bloody ground war, that will prevent the arab states from moving closer to Israel (lest their populations string them up), and in so doing, bring the entire muslim world back on track to hating Israel AND the west, since that hatred of Israel and a protracted war will provide ample fodder for blaming the west for Israel's 'crimes'.

Keep in mind, I'm 100% pro-Israel here. I just think we've allowed the idiots to run things for too long, and Israel got complacent.

I KNOW Israel has to invade. I HOPE they have planner smarter than me who can see that just because they have no choice, and they are allowing the enemy to have the initiative, doesn't mean they can't still be creative.

I'm really not sure what a good outcome looks like here.

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