As the recent Army commercial shows, I think the knowledge that a “diversified” military simply isn’t going to cut it vs Russia, Iran, China, or god forbid all at once if DC really bungles it, is percolating up, thus the commercial only shows White men doing normal army stuff.
But after so many years of being denigrated, of so much evidence making its way online of what DIE really means in practice, the question has to be: why would any man - particular the White men who made up 85% of combat deaths in the GWOT - want to serve this government?
Noticed that too, didn't ya? So I guess now that they need battle ready real fighters their concerns about "white rage" have evaporated. Don't fall for it, sweet boys. They spit on your and your family's traditions for the better part of a decade, they tore down your town statues and gleefully melted the faces of your heroes in their hellish infernos of hate. Do not help them now. They will only turn on you again.
My first instinct was similar to yours, namely that I suspect the young, straight men of America (and their parents) may be slow to forgive and forget how they've been villainized these last years and therefore slow to rush to their local recruiting office.
But the current state of things also creates a real opportunity for DOD, if they're smart (and politically free) enough to seize it (which they likely are not, on either count, but still). I imagine a recruiting pitch that positions the DOD as the one place in this feminized world where a rough-and-ready young man can still spit and fight and break things would be pretty well received nowadays.
That plan will work only if the Army and Air Force begin a serious recruiting campaign that makes them look enough like the Marine Corps to counter their long-standing self-destruction. Or the draft is re-instituted.
No need for a fancy recruiting push if you have a draft....
You'll notice I didn't say I think DOD would actually try to pull this off. My sense is that they won't admit their mistake and reverse it (which is essential to the strategy I mentioned) until things are much worse than present. I'm just suggesting that in some alternate-universe with a serious DOD led by apolitical warfighters, the conditions are right for it to work.
In a perfect world DoD would present the military as an opportunity to lure in our rough and readies. I still say no because for the last 50 years they have only proven they intend to send them to die like cannon fodder in endless wars they do not intend to win. Hard no to falling for that ever again and wasting the seedcorn of our next generation. They are killing the rest off with fentanyl. Over 100k of our country's future workers/parents killed by it in 2022 and more this year. Not a peep from the glitterati. Damn them.
It's been for far, far longer than "the better part of a decade" that they've been spitting on the military and the traditions of the services and their members. DIE is just the latest "flavor" of denigrating the military. Before "racist whites" it was "idiots who couldn't get a real job", "babykillers", and "mindless drones", among other pejoratives.
somebody expects a War. The Army recruiting ads just went from the girl with two Les moms wanting a safe space to a bunch of white guys making a jump...
Someone pointed out there was a black guy in the stick as well but we didn't see him until they got together on the ground at the end. Regardless, point stands. No more lesbian two moms how can I help refugees and be a special me crap when they are hurting this badly for warfighters
As I wrap up my career, these words will trigger me for the rest of my life: "receive briefings and have discussions". I've sat through too many meetings with this considered a healthy meeting agenda. And success is defined by ... receiving the briefings and having discussions!
But we learned us a new woke phrase today. "reparations washing." - So it appears that reparations no matter how much will be enough. Why is it we only hear about reparations from political panderers like C. Bush or those burdened with useless degrees who can only pander to race? Do Black's with useful degrees as a whole also seek reparations?
The slave owners and the slaves are all long dead. If anyone is to pay reparations (a debatable point; bear with me), it is organizations that supported slavery then and still exist today. In the US, that would be ... the Demo0cratic Party. Let them pay reparations from their war chests and donations, not from taxes. I can't think of any other organization in the US that should, but I'm open to suggestions.
DEI=DIE The end of many of the truths that this country was founded upon. This isn't about including everyone, it's about excluding many that some don't agree with. Everyone should be included in repairing the damage that's being done to our rule of law. The Constitution is the most equitable document penned by the hand of man. It's not perfect, because man's not perfect. But when followed, the Constitution affords everyone the best chance to determine their own destiny.
President Obama said that the problem with the US Constitution is that it is a government limiting document, Amen! The government needs to be limited! The Constitution is a document that creates a government of the people, by the people, for the people. We, the people, should decide how our money is spent. We the people should decide where we live, work, send our kids to school. We the people shouldn't be drowning in taxes. We don't need transformation, we need to return to the rule of law that is clearly spelled out in the Constitution.
And the grift goes on. Meanwhile, US govt is rapidly approaching payout velocity of $1T/yr of just interest on the national debt. This note from Sal reminds us of the frivolous, foolish nature of at least some of that borrowed money on which the credit of the Republic is being urinated into the River Potomac.
No additional commentary on the latest retro advertisement the US Army put out this week on Diversity Thursday? Interesting how they reverted to images of all-White, all male troopers in this latest campaign. Nary a spot of diversity.
I guess Emma with two mommies didn't have her jump wings.
It did not go unnoticed, as the 3000+ comments on the YT video and other social media outlets show.
The mask may have finally slipped a bit too much that has been hiding the Empire’s contempt of the competent class of men their strength relied on.
This naked attempt to claw back the support and tribute of this nation’s foundational sons could be the bridge too far.
Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said she expects within weeks to begin drafting a proposal for a recruiting overhaul so sweeping that Congress might need to pass legislation to enact all of it.
Depending too much on military families could create a “warrior caste,” Wormuth said. Her plans seek to draw in people who have no real connection to the military and to broaden the appeal of service.
She certainly is both clueless about her recruiting demo and what drives volunteers.
I could support that to some extent, but only for the ones that have been here for quite some time already. I wouldn't want to do it for those coming across this year
I think you need to make a distinction between Barbarians and Non-Romans living inside the Republic. Greeks for example, lived inside the Roman system, but did not have Roman citizenship by birthright. Teaching young Barbarians how to fight like Romans, and thus how to fight Romans, then allowing them to leave created a number of issues
Wonder if this has anything to do with the recent litigation regarding race-based admissions to the service academies. Trying to prep the battle space is my guess
They deserve a good turnout. Please leave pitchforks, tar and feathers at home.
They also deserve a lot of written input, since they are asking for it.
Might even ask if the DOD DEI(etc) establishment is experiencing any manning shortfalls at a time when overall DOD is seriously below strength.
What is the impact on DEI goal setting and achievement in light of the high percentages of minority youths who are ineligible for service due to failure to complete high school, low test scores, history of drug abuse and criminal records? Or, are we trying to change qualification standards to enlist more of those folks so "the military looks like America"?
Have they been able to quantify the "benefits of diversity" yet?
What is the cost in annual funding and billets for the DEI zampolit empire?
Are we closer to the DEI goals now because we are recruiting more qualified minorities, or has that percentage risen due to a drop in the number of qualified non-minority (evil militaristic white males with military heritage) has dropped precipitously?
What studies have been done on the effect of female members becoming non-deployable with their units?
What resources have been expended on "trans" personnel, and how many "trans" personnel are in each of the services? Have their actual military service benefits been worth the actual cost, other than counting towards DEI goals?
What are the comparable DEI metrics from the armed forces of China, Russia, Israel, Iran, UK, Canada, or other nations of interest?
What percentage of personnel in DOD DEI billets are veterans?
What is the breakdown of DOD DEI personned by race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation and other DEI metrics? How does this compare to the U.S. population and DOD population?
"What studies have been done on the effect of female members becoming non-deployable with their units?"
We have a Supreme Court justice who couldn't even define what a female is. Do we even have anyone with enough intelligence, training, and credentials to define such a study?
This ... also quoting Bari Weiss: “It is time to end DEI for good. No more standing by as people are encouraged to segregate themselves. No more forced declarations that you will prioritize identity over excellence. No more compelled speech. No more going along with little lies for the sake of being polite.”
Its was tough wading through the gov-speak... But did anyone notice the part where the Chair and others will reveiw statements before deciding whether to allow the statements and their authors to speak or submit the statements to the council??
Sounds like there's a gatekeeper to censor anyone who might question the purity or intelligence of the cause...
"Tough", you say, XJrSailor? Between that bold lettered BEHOLD!, down along side that blue line to the unredacted version it was like crawling through a fetid swamp with alligator snapping turtles going for my dangling parts. Yeah, maybe some Tough Love from the CDR to toughen us up in the spirit of an old XO who used to say TSNC (Tough Shit, Next Case) to JO's, XOI attendees and recalcitrant subordinates of all stripe. Twern't tough, it was torture. I didn't read the whole blurb. I neither needed the toughening nor the punishment. Too frail for one, undeserving of the other. Gah! Some Diversity Turdday this was.
It's implied, Jetcal. I. m. p. l. i. e. d. I know you weren't being snarky. The deiaster's have it covered. Let's not worry about it. OK? Disclaimer. I have not flown since 1986. Nor will I ever. I got groped by a too enthusiastic TSA guy about 15 years ago when I checked my 2 grandsons through screening to walk them to the boarding gate. F the FAA, ay?
Alot of young men are going to die because of this inane s**t.
Women too, I suspect.
As the recent Army commercial shows, I think the knowledge that a “diversified” military simply isn’t going to cut it vs Russia, Iran, China, or god forbid all at once if DC really bungles it, is percolating up, thus the commercial only shows White men doing normal army stuff.
But after so many years of being denigrated, of so much evidence making its way online of what DIE really means in practice, the question has to be: why would any man - particular the White men who made up 85% of combat deaths in the GWOT - want to serve this government?
Noticed that too, didn't ya? So I guess now that they need battle ready real fighters their concerns about "white rage" have evaporated. Don't fall for it, sweet boys. They spit on your and your family's traditions for the better part of a decade, they tore down your town statues and gleefully melted the faces of your heroes in their hellish infernos of hate. Do not help them now. They will only turn on you again.
My first instinct was similar to yours, namely that I suspect the young, straight men of America (and their parents) may be slow to forgive and forget how they've been villainized these last years and therefore slow to rush to their local recruiting office.
But the current state of things also creates a real opportunity for DOD, if they're smart (and politically free) enough to seize it (which they likely are not, on either count, but still). I imagine a recruiting pitch that positions the DOD as the one place in this feminized world where a rough-and-ready young man can still spit and fight and break things would be pretty well received nowadays.
That plan will work only if the Army and Air Force begin a serious recruiting campaign that makes them look enough like the Marine Corps to counter their long-standing self-destruction. Or the draft is re-instituted.
No need for a fancy recruiting push if you have a draft....
You'll notice I didn't say I think DOD would actually try to pull this off. My sense is that they won't admit their mistake and reverse it (which is essential to the strategy I mentioned) until things are much worse than present. I'm just suggesting that in some alternate-universe with a serious DOD led by apolitical warfighters, the conditions are right for it to work.
Understood. The emperor rarely admits he has no clothes.
In a perfect world DoD would present the military as an opportunity to lure in our rough and readies. I still say no because for the last 50 years they have only proven they intend to send them to die like cannon fodder in endless wars they do not intend to win. Hard no to falling for that ever again and wasting the seedcorn of our next generation. They are killing the rest off with fentanyl. Over 100k of our country's future workers/parents killed by it in 2022 and more this year. Not a peep from the glitterati. Damn them.
It's been for far, far longer than "the better part of a decade" that they've been spitting on the military and the traditions of the services and their members. DIE is just the latest "flavor" of denigrating the military. Before "racist whites" it was "idiots who couldn't get a real job", "babykillers", and "mindless drones", among other pejoratives.
To sum up the ad, "Come fight for a country that no longer exists."
Russian Army put a new add out too!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1721880127553097933
The Army is short 30,000 men. That’s the equivalent to two infantry divisions. These folks keep wondering why.
somebody expects a War. The Army recruiting ads just went from the girl with two Les moms wanting a safe space to a bunch of white guys making a jump...
Someone pointed out there was a black guy in the stick as well but we didn't see him until they got together on the ground at the end. Regardless, point stands. No more lesbian two moms how can I help refugees and be a special me crap when they are hurting this badly for warfighters
As I wrap up my career, these words will trigger me for the rest of my life: "receive briefings and have discussions". I've sat through too many meetings with this considered a healthy meeting agenda. And success is defined by ... receiving the briefings and having discussions!
I have an even better one for the commander:
https://www.barrons.com/news/lloyd-s-of-london-pays-out-over-slave-trade-links-2a5cbffe
https://www.independent.co.uk/business/lloyd-s-of-london-to-pay-ps52m-after-significant-role-in-slave-trade-b2443846.html
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/08/lloyds-of-london-accused-of-reparations-washing-over-response-to-slave-trade-review
I recognize the commander is Navy not merchant marine, but DEI is doing for shipping what it is doing for the Navy.
But we learned us a new woke phrase today. "reparations washing." - So it appears that reparations no matter how much will be enough. Why is it we only hear about reparations from political panderers like C. Bush or those burdened with useless degrees who can only pander to race? Do Black's with useful degrees as a whole also seek reparations?
I tend to think not; those folks are too busy using their useful degrees to improve their lives and society at large
The slave owners and the slaves are all long dead. If anyone is to pay reparations (a debatable point; bear with me), it is organizations that supported slavery then and still exist today. In the US, that would be ... the Demo0cratic Party. Let them pay reparations from their war chests and donations, not from taxes. I can't think of any other organization in the US that should, but I'm open to suggestions.
Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry.
Bold move on the part of the military higher-ups who are planning WWIII at the same time.
DEI=DIE The end of many of the truths that this country was founded upon. This isn't about including everyone, it's about excluding many that some don't agree with. Everyone should be included in repairing the damage that's being done to our rule of law. The Constitution is the most equitable document penned by the hand of man. It's not perfect, because man's not perfect. But when followed, the Constitution affords everyone the best chance to determine their own destiny.
"The Constitution is the most equitable document penned by the hand of man"
OR, as Constitutional scholar pre-President Obama said, it's a fundamentally flawed document and our country needs fundamental transformation
President Obama said that the problem with the US Constitution is that it is a government limiting document, Amen! The government needs to be limited! The Constitution is a document that creates a government of the people, by the people, for the people. We, the people, should decide how our money is spent. We the people should decide where we live, work, send our kids to school. We the people shouldn't be drowning in taxes. We don't need transformation, we need to return to the rule of law that is clearly spelled out in the Constitution.
Concur
Very well put
Divisity, Extortion and Intrusion.
And the grift goes on. Meanwhile, US govt is rapidly approaching payout velocity of $1T/yr of just interest on the national debt. This note from Sal reminds us of the frivolous, foolish nature of at least some of that borrowed money on which the credit of the Republic is being urinated into the River Potomac.
"they aren't hiding the ball"
Not sure they have any!
Some of the "women" may.
No additional commentary on the latest retro advertisement the US Army put out this week on Diversity Thursday? Interesting how they reverted to images of all-White, all male troopers in this latest campaign. Nary a spot of diversity.
I guess Emma with two mommies didn't have her jump wings.
It did not go unnoticed, as the 3000+ comments on the YT video and other social media outlets show.
The mask may have finally slipped a bit too much that has been hiding the Empire’s contempt of the competent class of men their strength relied on.
This naked attempt to claw back the support and tribute of this nation’s foundational sons could be the bridge too far.
"First Jump Be All You Can Be U.S. Army"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luc9saxt_YQ
how fast things changed from Jul 2023.
Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said she expects within weeks to begin drafting a proposal for a recruiting overhaul so sweeping that Congress might need to pass legislation to enact all of it.
Depending too much on military families could create a “warrior caste,” Wormuth said. Her plans seek to draw in people who have no real connection to the military and to broaden the appeal of service.
She certainly is both clueless about her recruiting demo and what drives volunteers.
That legislation she wants probably grants citizenship immediately to any illegals that sign up and up to 10 relatives
before they complete an enlistment?
Not in favor at all, but at least how about:
Green card after basic.
Cit after 3 good years
green card for spouse after 3 good years
able to sponsor parents, sibs, and kids like other cits
I could support that to some extent, but only for the ones that have been here for quite some time already. I wouldn't want to do it for those coming across this year
Nope, no chain migration. You, a spouse, that's it.
Worked out so well for the romans after all...
lol
I think you need to make a distinction between Barbarians and Non-Romans living inside the Republic. Greeks for example, lived inside the Roman system, but did not have Roman citizenship by birthright. Teaching young Barbarians how to fight like Romans, and thus how to fight Romans, then allowing them to leave created a number of issues
"Depending too much on military families could create a “warrior caste,” Wormuth said." Wow. Just frigging Wow. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Christine_Wormuth_official_portrait.jpg/330px-Christine_Wormuth_official_portrait.jpg
I have a big problem with political families - Bush, Kennedy, Cuomo, Clinton, etc.
She could check with our new CNO. Oh wait...
Wonder if this has anything to do with the recent litigation regarding race-based admissions to the service academies. Trying to prep the battle space is my guess
vide,https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/09/student-group-that-won-affirmative-action-case-against-harvard-and-unc-sues-west-point-for-its-race-based-admissions-policy/
They deserve a good turnout. Please leave pitchforks, tar and feathers at home.
They also deserve a lot of written input, since they are asking for it.
Might even ask if the DOD DEI(etc) establishment is experiencing any manning shortfalls at a time when overall DOD is seriously below strength.
What is the impact on DEI goal setting and achievement in light of the high percentages of minority youths who are ineligible for service due to failure to complete high school, low test scores, history of drug abuse and criminal records? Or, are we trying to change qualification standards to enlist more of those folks so "the military looks like America"?
Have they been able to quantify the "benefits of diversity" yet?
What is the cost in annual funding and billets for the DEI zampolit empire?
Are we closer to the DEI goals now because we are recruiting more qualified minorities, or has that percentage risen due to a drop in the number of qualified non-minority (evil militaristic white males with military heritage) has dropped precipitously?
What studies have been done on the effect of female members becoming non-deployable with their units?
What resources have been expended on "trans" personnel, and how many "trans" personnel are in each of the services? Have their actual military service benefits been worth the actual cost, other than counting towards DEI goals?
What are the comparable DEI metrics from the armed forces of China, Russia, Israel, Iran, UK, Canada, or other nations of interest?
What percentage of personnel in DOD DEI billets are veterans?
What is the breakdown of DOD DEI personned by race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation and other DEI metrics? How does this compare to the U.S. population and DOD population?
"What studies have been done on the effect of female members becoming non-deployable with their units?"
We have a Supreme Court justice who couldn't even define what a female is. Do we even have anyone with enough intelligence, training, and credentials to define such a study?
The studies have been done...and quickly buried.
Great questions. The kind HASC should be asking. More please.
This ... also quoting Bari Weiss: “It is time to end DEI for good. No more standing by as people are encouraged to segregate themselves. No more forced declarations that you will prioritize identity over excellence. No more compelled speech. No more going along with little lies for the sake of being polite.”
The more accurate order is Diversity, Inclusion and equity, or DIE.
Its was tough wading through the gov-speak... But did anyone notice the part where the Chair and others will reveiw statements before deciding whether to allow the statements and their authors to speak or submit the statements to the council??
Sounds like there's a gatekeeper to censor anyone who might question the purity or intelligence of the cause...
"Tough", you say, XJrSailor? Between that bold lettered BEHOLD!, down along side that blue line to the unredacted version it was like crawling through a fetid swamp with alligator snapping turtles going for my dangling parts. Yeah, maybe some Tough Love from the CDR to toughen us up in the spirit of an old XO who used to say TSNC (Tough Shit, Next Case) to JO's, XOI attendees and recalcitrant subordinates of all stripe. Twern't tough, it was torture. I didn't read the whole blurb. I neither needed the toughening nor the punishment. Too frail for one, undeserving of the other. Gah! Some Diversity Turdday this was.
Spot on news nbc news tonight about increase in airport safety incidents so looked up faa employee dei policy, behold
https://www.faa.gov/deia
Not a word about safety or efficiency.
It's implied, Jetcal. I. m. p. l. i. e. d. I know you weren't being snarky. The deiaster's have it covered. Let's not worry about it. OK? Disclaimer. I have not flown since 1986. Nor will I ever. I got groped by a too enthusiastic TSA guy about 15 years ago when I checked my 2 grandsons through screening to walk them to the boarding gate. F the FAA, ay?