What is going on in the UK is especially terrifying. Sir Keir Starmer is acting more like Sir Oswald Mosley than Sir Thomas More. People are being quickly arrested, tried and sentenced to long terms in prison for merely expressing their opinions on social media. Apparently dissent is now incitement in the land of Magna Carta and the Glorious Revolution. Even opposition politicians like Neil Farage have been threatened.
If it can happen in England then it can easily happen here.
If Kamala and the cabal behind her is (s)elected to rule through demographic change, mail-in ballots and other vote-rigging chicanery, those days are coming faster than you can imagine.
I can't recall now what book I was reading about the Crusades, but I got the distinct impression he was into it, then took a good look around activity in the Levant and Egypt and said to himself "this place is a S^&t show. I'm out of here."
Still, hard to argue that he didn't like fighting a war he thought he might win!
William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!
I am currently living and working in the UK. I can tell you that the contrast between what is happening here, and how it is reported in the states and other places, is pretty stark. A lot of US media wants to portray this as some kind of authoritarian crack-down. It doesn't look or feel like that, from here, and I've spoken to no one here who thinks so. In fact, the prevailing view seems to favor going harder on the rioters.
Interesting point that I haven't seen covered outside the UK: the first man to be sentenced as a result of the riots wasn't a rioter, he was a muslim who filmed himself fleeing for his life from the rioters... but he was faking it to try to stir up anti-right wing protesters, just like some people spread misinformation to stir up the rioters. He's been sentenced for spreading misinformation.
Evwr since we got social media, a lot of people have been saying that spreading lies online should be punishable. Maybe now it is.
Lots of people have been punished for spreading lies. Socrates. Jesus. Joan of Arc. Sir Thomas More. Galileo. I am so glad we have a deep state to protect us from these liars. What would we do without people like Judge George Jeffreys?
If you really are in the UK then I strongly suggest that you read John Stuart Mill and what he had to say about the problem of people who say things you are sure are untrue. Mill was one of the greatest champions of liberty.
Judge Jeffreys would be amazed at the speed at which the UK is arresting, trying and sentencing people. Mere days. It takes me longer to get my lawyer on the phone.
Marcus Aurelius the Philosopher King persecuted Christians because he - one of the smartest men who have ruled - knew they were spread lies and causing trouble.
The "afterward" to Tom Kratman's 2008 book "Caliphate" was a brutally insightful polemic prophecy.
https://tomkratman.com/caliphate-afterword/ While the circumstances that drove the storyline were harshly different, the end result for the European continent strongly resembles the EU's current state of affairs. Actually, things in France, Germany, and the UK are arguably worse, IMHO. If current trends continue (they usually don't, but...) not seeing a lot of light at the end of this tunnel.
Very, very well said. The letter to Elon was so much "off", that I couldn't believe my eyes. It reeked of entitlement and self-importance, not only towards X/Elon, but also towards the actual people in EU who can't actually read things apparently, because they're dumb and might be influenced.
To be fair elites, ours and theirs, would prefer that Americans do away with their annoying liberties. Privileges, as they see them, should be boons handed out by the powerful in return for some action or favor. Not only did our founders codify them from the beginning but they made them natural rights, not some legalese "right" like "air travelers bill of rights", and such.
As Jefferson makes clear in his letter to Madison as the Constitution was being put to the states for ratification.
"I sincerely rejoice at the acceptance of our new constitution by nine states. It is a good canvas, on which some strokes only want retouching. What these are, I think are sufficiently manifested by the general voice from North to South, which calls for a bill of rights. It seems pretty generally understood that this should go to Juries, Habeas corpus, Standing armies, Printing, Religion and Monopolies. I conceive there may be difficulty in finding general modification of these suited to the habits of all the states. But if such cannot be found then it is better to establish trials by jury, the right of Habeas corpus, freedom of the press and freedom of religion in all cases, and to abolish standing armies in time of peace, and Monopolies, in all cases, than not to do it in any."
I love the Continent as much as you do, but this ingratitude for decades of propping up defense spending deadbeats is starting to grate on me and much of the American body politic.
The intellectual snobbery and preening from the European elites about our politics doesn’t undo that these nations are being hurled, as most of the West, into this multicultural madness of allowing incompatible, low-IQ invading hordes to replace the native populations.
Germany should be for the Germans, France for the French, not filled with Turks and Africans who are there to mooch off an overly generous welfare state enabled by our bankrolling of their defense.
The European elites are finding pushback for these ruinous policies and are becoming more tyrannical by the day to preserve their profoundly evil worldview of blank-slate egalitarianism. To them, thee are no differences among ethnicities and cultures and to even politely object to their plans is racist evil.
I recently spent two years in Europe, working at a large American headquarters. European media is MSNBC. The European public gets virtually no alternative perspective… Nor wants one. My German friends feel like they are held captive by their own government often
Regarding the second question, COULD any Europeans come to the aid of Americans?
Logistically, the best they could do two decades ago was send over a couple of AWACS aircraft following the 9/11/2001 attack, and not too much longer after that couldn't even sustain on their own a campaign against Libya, which is just on the other side of the Med from them.
Then there's Coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, where the US was footing much of the logistics bill for EU forces. (The actual effectiveness of said forces is another matter entirely, and one I'm not inclined to get into other than noting it starts at terms scatalogical, going downhill from there.)
The Europeans would do well to read a little history - they had the snot pounded out of them before we intervened in Europe either time, and don’t overlook that Germany declared war on the US, not the other way around.
Arguably Hitler’s Peak Stupid because Roosevelt, bad as he wanted to, probably wouldn’t have gone there for political reasons.
However, the fact remains that on the evening of 7 Dec 1941, FDR's foreign policy was in tatters. He wanted to fight the Germans...and had a war with the Japanese. Had Hitler not declared war, any attempt by FDR to attack Germany would have ended in an impeachment - likely followed by a speedy trial and execution for Treason.
"For some, even the Russian bear at their door will not wake them from their slumber, or clear away their college-level leftism. So many are still ready to defend Poland to the last Pole, Germany to the last American, and France to the first border guard whose union writes a sternly worded letter about overtime." Ouch! That had to leave a mark.
I'm in the other camp. We missed an opportunity in 1991 to tell the Europeans to grow up and mind their own sovereignty. NATO had served its purpose and a different structure, not dependent on American security guarantees, would have been a worthy project for our State Department. Instead, we let NATO grow like a mindless blob with the British, Germans and French figuring that somewhere in Eastern Europe there would be a tripwire that would bring the Americans in. I would support that restructuring today although I don't expect Trump, if elected, to actually pursue such a vision.
There is absolutely no purpose in defending countries with below-replacement fertility - all of Europe. If they don’t care about their own future, even, to populate that future, defending them is a fool’s errand.
Frankly, given the EU attempts to negatively influence the US media market, our businesses, and our environmental policies along with their unwillingness to pay their 2%, and general attitude? It's hard to find motivation to remain in any alliance with them.
OTH? We promise Poland LNG and when Biden cuts production through regulatory manipulation they don't go ballistic publicly.
It's too bad that any defense alliances with Poland and the Baltics have a secondary effect of protecting an arrogant, manipulative, and undeserving Western Europe.
Add a high ranking Sheriff of England threatening to arrest Americans if they dare to say or write something that he or the English do not like. Bad times ahead. If Harris is elected we will be right with Stermer and his Labour Party.
“Americans will, again, enthusiastically rush to defend our friends in Europe if needed, but that is something that assumption cannot stand on its own and should be properly given solid stewardship by responsible people.”
Not one American life until they fix their shit. I’m talking about the Islamic Dhimmitude, The water carriers for WEF, the smug grins from soy bois who think they are our betters. I’m talking about the John Kerry buddies. I have lived in Europe as a teenager, as an enlisted member of a NATO command task group and as an air operations officer on a dual civilian/ military airfield. I love the rank and file European. But I have seen the atrophy and the rot of Islam and socialism in each decade I lived there in the 80’s, 90’s and 2000’s. It’s systemic. Paddington Station in the UK in the 90’s was a quaint and safe place to stay. Now it’s an Islamic stronghold and no-go zone. The stubborn facts of low birthrates and an colonizing invader in the name of Allah tells me Europe has 10-15 years tops. Russia is a threat but Islam is the Indian closest to the cabin.
Should American sons die to prop up dictators that enslave and abuse their own people? Europe is no longer a free place they are denying their people basic human rights.
I have family in Italy [my father's side] and Belgium [my mother's side] and I've found that Europeans have an "it is what it is" attitude, as if there's no way to change "what it is".
Americans were, past tense, known for a "can do" attitude, as in nothing is "what it is", everything is how an American chooses to make it.
Except, of course, for climate change, where Europeans are determined to collapse their economies in the pursuit of directly controlling the climate.
Which Americans would rush? Barring a few friends, for whom I would find room somewhere in my house, I'd just as soon Europe sank into the sea. It's nothing but expense and risk for us, for no real benefit.
Of course, Europe, qua Europe, IS sinking into the sea...the sea of radical Islam.
My great grandfather did, in WW1. He'd been in the US for a few years; caught one of the last boats back to Sicily in 1914 or 15 because he wanted to keep his citizenship. He ended up in the alpine troops where Rommel was an Lt. He we so small his platoon used to lower him over the ridges on a rope so he could throw a grenade into a cave where the Germans were.
"Used to" is probably a euphemism for "one time when I almost S5&t my pants" but we'll cut him some slack.
He finished that war in on a POW farm and eventually made his way back to the US. Took my grandfather and rest of family back to Sicily as a kid in '29 or so because he had to show up in person to get his WWI back pay. Then came back here. His only son, my grandfather, served in WW2 as an early RT, finishing school at Monterey.
I don't know about rush, but I might stroll to their defense. I am rather fond of various European beverages and cuisines. And they do have some great scenery, museums, and historical artifacts. Of course, at the rate that sea you speak of is rising, much of that is an endangered species.
I'll go beyond that, to what has Europe done for us lately that we should bleed for them. Maybe we should set the next one out, and then take on the winner?
Russia has fewer people in prison for criticizing Putin than England has imprisoned in the last month alone for criticizing their government's immigration and law enforcement policies. The European Union's Digital Security Act is spiritually Stasi. What pray tell is NATO defending? The right to be incarcerated for calling out immigrants on Twitter?
You have to ask the question: what in the fuck is wrong in Europe and why are they afraid of people speaking their own opinion? Where is the vector of control. Who are the fucktard back slappers in smoky bars making these decisions and how are the governments captured to do their bidding?
Their ruling class, even more than ours, is a small clique of people who inherited power and position. And they despise the average citizen. It's a clique that will do just about anything to avoid being judged on competence - because that would cost them their positions. Or more.
If the EU thinks it can export their censorship regime to the US, trample on our 1st Amendment Rights and interfere in our elections, then they can take a short walk off a long pier.
In the past century, Americans have gone to war TWICE strictly to save Europe from itself. My grandfather went to France in WWI, and my father dropped out of high school to enlist in WWII, and I spent 21 years in the USN myself, My immediate family has a century's worth of military service. But today's Europe WANTS to be invaded, WANTS to be dominated, WANTS to become extinct. Britain, Greece and Italy are being invaded by sea, and their navies are simply letting the invaders ashore. Except for Poland and Hungary, the invaders simply walk in with their hands out, palms up, waiting to receive free food, free housing. And the invaders bring crime, rapes, murders, and theft, and do NOTHING in their own defense.
I fully expect that within the next year, Keir Starmer will convert to Islam, change his name to "Muhamed Mohammad" and declare a caliphate. If King Chuck wants there to still be a Britain when William is ready to inherit the place, he'd better dissolve Parliament and start acting like a King. Because many of my friends would be unwilling to come to the aid of today's Europe.
EU "Commissioner" Thierry Breton doesn't like Elon Musk's attitude toward freedom of speech? I'd tell him that we Americans stopped caring about his attitude in 1776. It's his Europe; let HIM defend it. Because we won't!
I think King Chuck is in deep with Klaus Schwab and the WEF. No succor to be found there.
On the other hand, if Prince William were to ride forth on glorious steed, behead his treasonous father, and declare "Britain for the British!" for all to hear, we'd have some historical times on our hands:)
Which Europe? The one with separate countries, unique languages and distinct cultures, or the borderless welfare camp for illegal immigrants, ruled by un-elected, effete bureaucrats in Brussels?
What is going on in the UK is especially terrifying. Sir Keir Starmer is acting more like Sir Oswald Mosley than Sir Thomas More. People are being quickly arrested, tried and sentenced to long terms in prison for merely expressing their opinions on social media. Apparently dissent is now incitement in the land of Magna Carta and the Glorious Revolution. Even opposition politicians like Neil Farage have been threatened.
If it can happen in England then it can easily happen here.
If Kamala and the cabal behind her is (s)elected to rule through demographic change, mail-in ballots and other vote-rigging chicanery, those days are coming faster than you can imagine.
You mean steal. Fixed it for you.
"Fortified" is the word. Saying "Steal" will get you arrested in the coming brave new world unburdened by what has been.
Charles Martel is the grandfather of Charlemagne. He is not a happy soul right now.
How do you think Richard Cœur de Lion feels?
He’s not a happy dude.
or my, perhaps family apocryphal, village ancestor Skanderbeg
Or King Jan Sobieski
or my, perhaps family apocryphal, village ancestor Skanderbeg
He’s pissed too.
literal "lol," I should probably watch the booze tonight
Well, he was really only happy fighting wars, so....
I can't recall now what book I was reading about the Crusades, but I got the distinct impression he was into it, then took a good look around activity in the Levant and Egypt and said to himself "this place is a S^&t show. I'm out of here."
Still, hard to argue that he didn't like fighting a war he thought he might win!
William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!
I am currently living and working in the UK. I can tell you that the contrast between what is happening here, and how it is reported in the states and other places, is pretty stark. A lot of US media wants to portray this as some kind of authoritarian crack-down. It doesn't look or feel like that, from here, and I've spoken to no one here who thinks so. In fact, the prevailing view seems to favor going harder on the rioters.
Interesting point that I haven't seen covered outside the UK: the first man to be sentenced as a result of the riots wasn't a rioter, he was a muslim who filmed himself fleeing for his life from the rioters... but he was faking it to try to stir up anti-right wing protesters, just like some people spread misinformation to stir up the rioters. He's been sentenced for spreading misinformation.
Evwr since we got social media, a lot of people have been saying that spreading lies online should be punishable. Maybe now it is.
If you weren’t Jewish in 1938 the Crystal Night was no big deal either.
Lots of people have been punished for spreading lies. Socrates. Jesus. Joan of Arc. Sir Thomas More. Galileo. I am so glad we have a deep state to protect us from these liars. What would we do without people like Judge George Jeffreys?
If you really are in the UK then I strongly suggest that you read John Stuart Mill and what he had to say about the problem of people who say things you are sure are untrue. Mill was one of the greatest champions of liberty.
Judge Jeffreys would be amazed at the speed at which the UK is arresting, trying and sentencing people. Mere days. It takes me longer to get my lawyer on the phone.
Marcus Aurelius the Philosopher King persecuted Christians because he - one of the smartest men who have ruled - knew they were spread lies and causing trouble.
Who's a greater threat to the people of the UK?
1. The horde of immigrants
2. The political class
3. Russia.
Pick two.
And in one of our newest freedom-loving NATO allies a former member of parliament was tried for quoting a Bible verse on social media.
We have guns.
The "afterward" to Tom Kratman's 2008 book "Caliphate" was a brutally insightful polemic prophecy.
https://tomkratman.com/caliphate-afterword/ While the circumstances that drove the storyline were harshly different, the end result for the European continent strongly resembles the EU's current state of affairs. Actually, things in France, Germany, and the UK are arguably worse, IMHO. If current trends continue (they usually don't, but...) not seeing a lot of light at the end of this tunnel.
Very, very well said. The letter to Elon was so much "off", that I couldn't believe my eyes. It reeked of entitlement and self-importance, not only towards X/Elon, but also towards the actual people in EU who can't actually read things apparently, because they're dumb and might be influenced.
Yep, things will keep getting worse at this rate.
To be fair elites, ours and theirs, would prefer that Americans do away with their annoying liberties. Privileges, as they see them, should be boons handed out by the powerful in return for some action or favor. Not only did our founders codify them from the beginning but they made them natural rights, not some legalese "right" like "air travelers bill of rights", and such.
As Jefferson makes clear in his letter to Madison as the Constitution was being put to the states for ratification.
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/01-13-02-0335
"I sincerely rejoice at the acceptance of our new constitution by nine states. It is a good canvas, on which some strokes only want retouching. What these are, I think are sufficiently manifested by the general voice from North to South, which calls for a bill of rights. It seems pretty generally understood that this should go to Juries, Habeas corpus, Standing armies, Printing, Religion and Monopolies. I conceive there may be difficulty in finding general modification of these suited to the habits of all the states. But if such cannot be found then it is better to establish trials by jury, the right of Habeas corpus, freedom of the press and freedom of religion in all cases, and to abolish standing armies in time of peace, and Monopolies, in all cases, than not to do it in any."
Neither our nor their "elites" are. Sadly, they ARE powerful.
I love the Continent as much as you do, but this ingratitude for decades of propping up defense spending deadbeats is starting to grate on me and much of the American body politic.
The intellectual snobbery and preening from the European elites about our politics doesn’t undo that these nations are being hurled, as most of the West, into this multicultural madness of allowing incompatible, low-IQ invading hordes to replace the native populations.
Germany should be for the Germans, France for the French, not filled with Turks and Africans who are there to mooch off an overly generous welfare state enabled by our bankrolling of their defense.
The European elites are finding pushback for these ruinous policies and are becoming more tyrannical by the day to preserve their profoundly evil worldview of blank-slate egalitarianism. To them, thee are no differences among ethnicities and cultures and to even politely object to their plans is racist evil.
Dirty unwashed masses?
"The intellectual snobbery and preening from the European elites about our politics ..."
The politics of those sophisticated European elites started two world wars, among other triumphs.
I recently spent two years in Europe, working at a large American headquarters. European media is MSNBC. The European public gets virtually no alternative perspective… Nor wants one. My German friends feel like they are held captive by their own government often
Questions: is it still true that Americans will enthusiastically go to the aid of Europeans? And would any Europeans come to the aid of Americans?
Regarding the second question, COULD any Europeans come to the aid of Americans?
Logistically, the best they could do two decades ago was send over a couple of AWACS aircraft following the 9/11/2001 attack, and not too much longer after that couldn't even sustain on their own a campaign against Libya, which is just on the other side of the Med from them.
Then there's Coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, where the US was footing much of the logistics bill for EU forces. (The actual effectiveness of said forces is another matter entirely, and one I'm not inclined to get into other than noting it starts at terms scatalogical, going downhill from there.)
Now, now. Euro DefTwitter assures me they didn't REALLY need us to bail them out in Libya. Just Yankee propaganda.
No and No.
AEF = After England Failed.
The Europeans would do well to read a little history - they had the snot pounded out of them before we intervened in Europe either time, and don’t overlook that Germany declared war on the US, not the other way around.
Arguably Hitler’s Peak Stupid because Roosevelt, bad as he wanted to, probably wouldn’t have gone there for political reasons.
I'm pretty sure with FDR's cabinet and wife we were in for the long haul to support the Soviet Union.
Fascist Franklin, too.
However, the fact remains that on the evening of 7 Dec 1941, FDR's foreign policy was in tatters. He wanted to fight the Germans...and had a war with the Japanese. Had Hitler not declared war, any attempt by FDR to attack Germany would have ended in an impeachment - likely followed by a speedy trial and execution for Treason.
Probably not. No.
The opening scene from Red Dawn 1983 says it all “…. America stands alone…”
"For some, even the Russian bear at their door will not wake them from their slumber, or clear away their college-level leftism. So many are still ready to defend Poland to the last Pole, Germany to the last American, and France to the first border guard whose union writes a sternly worded letter about overtime." Ouch! That had to leave a mark.
I'm in the other camp. We missed an opportunity in 1991 to tell the Europeans to grow up and mind their own sovereignty. NATO had served its purpose and a different structure, not dependent on American security guarantees, would have been a worthy project for our State Department. Instead, we let NATO grow like a mindless blob with the British, Germans and French figuring that somewhere in Eastern Europe there would be a tripwire that would bring the Americans in. I would support that restructuring today although I don't expect Trump, if elected, to actually pursue such a vision.
I had a close friend from Scotland, military, cold war, who agreed with this.
Instead we got the New World Order
There is absolutely no purpose in defending countries with below-replacement fertility - all of Europe. If they don’t care about their own future, even, to populate that future, defending them is a fool’s errand.
The EU and UK are in deep kim-chi right now, and probably mostly due to their green policies which they would like to shame us into adopting.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-19/number-of-uk-bankruptcies-jumps-to-highest-in-over-a-year/
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/german-insolvencies-higher-than-expected-h1-reports-handelsblatt-2024-07-09/
https://english.news.cn/20240813/7f1d7f63192048d6934db1d48df3af56/c.html
Frankly, given the EU attempts to negatively influence the US media market, our businesses, and our environmental policies along with their unwillingness to pay their 2%, and general attitude? It's hard to find motivation to remain in any alliance with them.
OTH? We promise Poland LNG and when Biden cuts production through regulatory manipulation they don't go ballistic publicly.
It's too bad that any defense alliances with Poland and the Baltics have a secondary effect of protecting an arrogant, manipulative, and undeserving Western Europe.
Don’t forget that retarded letter that Thierry sent. That is tantamount to election interference.
Add a high ranking Sheriff of England threatening to arrest Americans if they dare to say or write something that he or the English do not like. Bad times ahead. If Harris is elected we will be right with Stermer and his Labour Party.
“Americans will, again, enthusiastically rush to defend our friends in Europe if needed, but that is something that assumption cannot stand on its own and should be properly given solid stewardship by responsible people.”
Not one American life until they fix their shit. I’m talking about the Islamic Dhimmitude, The water carriers for WEF, the smug grins from soy bois who think they are our betters. I’m talking about the John Kerry buddies. I have lived in Europe as a teenager, as an enlisted member of a NATO command task group and as an air operations officer on a dual civilian/ military airfield. I love the rank and file European. But I have seen the atrophy and the rot of Islam and socialism in each decade I lived there in the 80’s, 90’s and 2000’s. It’s systemic. Paddington Station in the UK in the 90’s was a quaint and safe place to stay. Now it’s an Islamic stronghold and no-go zone. The stubborn facts of low birthrates and an colonizing invader in the name of Allah tells me Europe has 10-15 years tops. Russia is a threat but Islam is the Indian closest to the cabin.
Should American sons die to prop up dictators that enslave and abuse their own people? Europe is no longer a free place they are denying their people basic human rights.
This!
I have family in Italy [my father's side] and Belgium [my mother's side] and I've found that Europeans have an "it is what it is" attitude, as if there's no way to change "what it is".
Americans were, past tense, known for a "can do" attitude, as in nothing is "what it is", everything is how an American chooses to make it.
Except, of course, for climate change, where Europeans are determined to collapse their economies in the pursuit of directly controlling the climate.
We used to have a lot of AmeriCan people. Hopefully they still outnumber the AmeriCan't.
Which Americans would rush? Barring a few friends, for whom I would find room somewhere in my house, I'd just as soon Europe sank into the sea. It's nothing but expense and risk for us, for no real benefit.
Of course, Europe, qua Europe, IS sinking into the sea...the sea of radical Islam.
I would hate to lose Italy…
I’d fight for Italy.
My great grandfather did, in WW1. He'd been in the US for a few years; caught one of the last boats back to Sicily in 1914 or 15 because he wanted to keep his citizenship. He ended up in the alpine troops where Rommel was an Lt. He we so small his platoon used to lower him over the ridges on a rope so he could throw a grenade into a cave where the Germans were.
"Used to" is probably a euphemism for "one time when I almost S5&t my pants" but we'll cut him some slack.
He finished that war in on a POW farm and eventually made his way back to the US. Took my grandfather and rest of family back to Sicily as a kid in '29 or so because he had to show up in person to get his WWI back pay. Then came back here. His only son, my grandfather, served in WW2 as an early RT, finishing school at Monterey.
Great story.
Agree, it would be a shame, but if Italy won’t fight for itself, why should we?🤔
I don't know about rush, but I might stroll to their defense. I am rather fond of various European beverages and cuisines. And they do have some great scenery, museums, and historical artifacts. Of course, at the rate that sea you speak of is rising, much of that is an endangered species.
If that was important, they would defend it themselves.
I'll go beyond that, to what has Europe done for us lately that we should bleed for them. Maybe we should set the next one out, and then take on the winner?
Russia has fewer people in prison for criticizing Putin than England has imprisoned in the last month alone for criticizing their government's immigration and law enforcement policies. The European Union's Digital Security Act is spiritually Stasi. What pray tell is NATO defending? The right to be incarcerated for calling out immigrants on Twitter?
You have to ask the question: what in the fuck is wrong in Europe and why are they afraid of people speaking their own opinion? Where is the vector of control. Who are the fucktard back slappers in smoky bars making these decisions and how are the governments captured to do their bidding?
Asking for a friend
MRT's Haircut: Smokey bars? I think the current back slappers meet at hair and nail salons--and I'm talking about the men, too.
Touché
Their ruling class, even more than ours, is a small clique of people who inherited power and position. And they despise the average citizen. It's a clique that will do just about anything to avoid being judged on competence - because that would cost them their positions. Or more.
Yep. Like a bad episode of Reacher.
"What pray tell is NATO defending?"
Great question. It seems to me it is becoming difficult to make something like the "Why We Fight" movies the US made during WWII.
NATO is defending the profit margins of the MIC; no more, no less.
As to Putin: he & Orban are the ONLY national leaders resisting the globalists.
If the EU thinks it can export their censorship regime to the US, trample on our 1st Amendment Rights and interfere in our elections, then they can take a short walk off a long pier.
Right! We can build our own censorship regime and corrupt our own elections!
In the past century, Americans have gone to war TWICE strictly to save Europe from itself. My grandfather went to France in WWI, and my father dropped out of high school to enlist in WWII, and I spent 21 years in the USN myself, My immediate family has a century's worth of military service. But today's Europe WANTS to be invaded, WANTS to be dominated, WANTS to become extinct. Britain, Greece and Italy are being invaded by sea, and their navies are simply letting the invaders ashore. Except for Poland and Hungary, the invaders simply walk in with their hands out, palms up, waiting to receive free food, free housing. And the invaders bring crime, rapes, murders, and theft, and do NOTHING in their own defense.
I fully expect that within the next year, Keir Starmer will convert to Islam, change his name to "Muhamed Mohammad" and declare a caliphate. If King Chuck wants there to still be a Britain when William is ready to inherit the place, he'd better dissolve Parliament and start acting like a King. Because many of my friends would be unwilling to come to the aid of today's Europe.
EU "Commissioner" Thierry Breton doesn't like Elon Musk's attitude toward freedom of speech? I'd tell him that we Americans stopped caring about his attitude in 1776. It's his Europe; let HIM defend it. Because we won't!
Oh If I could post some memes from my stack notes..
I think King Chuck is in deep with Klaus Schwab and the WEF. No succor to be found there.
On the other hand, if Prince William were to ride forth on glorious steed, behead his treasonous father, and declare "Britain for the British!" for all to hear, we'd have some historical times on our hands:)
It appears the House of Windsor has outlived its usefulness. Maybe there is a real Englishman somewhere who could be a king
Which Europe? The one with separate countries, unique languages and distinct cultures, or the borderless welfare camp for illegal immigrants, ruled by un-elected, effete bureaucrats in Brussels?