>The Navy JAG officers and federal prosecutors involved in the case exhibited misconduct, including withholding evidence and cheating during the trial.<
You mean like every other high-profile JAG case in recent years? See Gallagher, see Mays.
>The case against Leonard Francis has been marred by delays, prosecutorial misconduct, and dropped charges, raising questions about the ultimate outcome of the case.<
You mean like every other high-profile JAG case in recent years? See Gallagher, see Mays.
Is it just coincidence that every high-profile JAG case exhibits the same corruption and unscrupulous conduct that Fat Leonard exposed in the O4+ SWO side of the house? Or is it that the entire Navy has become full of corrupt and unscrupulous people who are promoted to ever-higher levels and it just hasn't been exposed in the Sub and Aviation community?
Was going to highlight same. I think the JAG corps has embraced Federal prosecutor rules (meaning none) and no longer demonstrates respect for the law, or the rights of the accused, at all.
In my day - the 1960's - the USN was corrupt in multiple senses. Drunkeness and sex were promoted - virtually required. On my first visit to a "foreign" port (San Juan Puerto Rico is only "foreign" if you are ignorant and/or racist - it is in fact a U.S. Port) I was told I had to go ashore with my division (the Navy name for a squad or low level work team) and do three things - the least offensive was get a tattoo - and I was not willing to risk either catching what we then called VD nor discoloring my skin. I declared "you cannot order me to do that" - which everyone knew was true. But my Chief still took me into the ECM shack and begged me to do so "for the morale of the division." Getting drunk and promiscuous sex not part of any meaningful relationship were semi-officially promoted. [As well, if you did NOT do that, there were certain effects. When I did go ashore in a "foreign port" they passed out condoms. I refused to take one. The OOD declared "if he won't touch it, he doesn't need it" and THAT followed me wherever I went. It even got me some interesting duties. Guarding female quarters on a cruise ship which had to impose quarantine due to a contagion, and escort the daughter of the ambassador from Columbia to see a movie. [She came with an armed bodyguard, a driver who was also armed, a duenna, two friends, and a soldier and a Marine to escort them. This you might think was adequate security, but the Navy wanted one more layer: someone who would not "try anything" even if the opportunity arose.] There is something wrong with an organization which does not reflect the values of our country, as taught in the Midwest half a century ago. [MOST sailors come from the Great Lakes, which is why they built the largest naval training base in the world at Great Lakes, IL on Lake Michigan].
To be fair, being drunk and engaging in coitus are not inherently corrupt activities, though the former may lead one to be vulnerable to corruption in pursuit of the latter.
Apparently USN didn't agree. If you caught what today are called STD's (we had a different term) more than once, you would be administratively discharged for "unclean habits." I believe that good character is something which wise military leaders should promote. What this entails probably lies beyond the scope of a cryptic forum of this kind. But some military historical literature suggests that celibate military units were more combat effective.
A little known problem occurs on ships after weeks at sea because of isolation. I was immune to the problem of distress of isolation at sea. My shipmates said it was "because you don't know what you are missing." That might have been a factor. But it DID permit me to immerse in signals intelligence and creative solutions for technical and tactical problems. Nothing like practice to get good at something. I simply didn't have time for "extra" activities. If there are no fanatics to master sonar or electronic warfare, because that is what they do with their time, we may find we are are not going to compete well in complex modern combat environments.
https://youtu.be/Ry5GHJifMWY?feature=shared
Yes, ...those were the days!
“Fart Leonard” 😂
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I'll fix that. LOL is right.
Fart Leonard! lol
>The Navy JAG officers and federal prosecutors involved in the case exhibited misconduct, including withholding evidence and cheating during the trial.<
You mean like every other high-profile JAG case in recent years? See Gallagher, see Mays.
>The case against Leonard Francis has been marred by delays, prosecutorial misconduct, and dropped charges, raising questions about the ultimate outcome of the case.<
You mean like every other high-profile JAG case in recent years? See Gallagher, see Mays.
Is it just coincidence that every high-profile JAG case exhibits the same corruption and unscrupulous conduct that Fat Leonard exposed in the O4+ SWO side of the house? Or is it that the entire Navy has become full of corrupt and unscrupulous people who are promoted to ever-higher levels and it just hasn't been exposed in the Sub and Aviation community?
Was going to highlight same. I think the JAG corps has embraced Federal prosecutor rules (meaning none) and no longer demonstrates respect for the law, or the rights of the accused, at all.
Fatty fat fat. His admiral cucks mourn his loss.
In my day - the 1960's - the USN was corrupt in multiple senses. Drunkeness and sex were promoted - virtually required. On my first visit to a "foreign" port (San Juan Puerto Rico is only "foreign" if you are ignorant and/or racist - it is in fact a U.S. Port) I was told I had to go ashore with my division (the Navy name for a squad or low level work team) and do three things - the least offensive was get a tattoo - and I was not willing to risk either catching what we then called VD nor discoloring my skin. I declared "you cannot order me to do that" - which everyone knew was true. But my Chief still took me into the ECM shack and begged me to do so "for the morale of the division." Getting drunk and promiscuous sex not part of any meaningful relationship were semi-officially promoted. [As well, if you did NOT do that, there were certain effects. When I did go ashore in a "foreign port" they passed out condoms. I refused to take one. The OOD declared "if he won't touch it, he doesn't need it" and THAT followed me wherever I went. It even got me some interesting duties. Guarding female quarters on a cruise ship which had to impose quarantine due to a contagion, and escort the daughter of the ambassador from Columbia to see a movie. [She came with an armed bodyguard, a driver who was also armed, a duenna, two friends, and a soldier and a Marine to escort them. This you might think was adequate security, but the Navy wanted one more layer: someone who would not "try anything" even if the opportunity arose.] There is something wrong with an organization which does not reflect the values of our country, as taught in the Midwest half a century ago. [MOST sailors come from the Great Lakes, which is why they built the largest naval training base in the world at Great Lakes, IL on Lake Michigan].
To be fair, being drunk and engaging in coitus are not inherently corrupt activities, though the former may lead one to be vulnerable to corruption in pursuit of the latter.
Why is anyone surprised?
Did you not have a tour in Washington, DC where senators have gold bars and congresswomen have a 100% success rate in picking stocks?
Why wouldn't the lower decks emulate their leaders?
Apparently USN didn't agree. If you caught what today are called STD's (we had a different term) more than once, you would be administratively discharged for "unclean habits." I believe that good character is something which wise military leaders should promote. What this entails probably lies beyond the scope of a cryptic forum of this kind. But some military historical literature suggests that celibate military units were more combat effective.
A little known problem occurs on ships after weeks at sea because of isolation. I was immune to the problem of distress of isolation at sea. My shipmates said it was "because you don't know what you are missing." That might have been a factor. But it DID permit me to immerse in signals intelligence and creative solutions for technical and tactical problems. Nothing like practice to get good at something. I simply didn't have time for "extra" activities. If there are no fanatics to master sonar or electronic warfare, because that is what they do with their time, we may find we are are not going to compete well in complex modern combat environments.