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Our enemies make one error.

I don't give free analysis to the internet or our enemies, but here's a freebie for the day.

In 1945, such men fought each other.

If you so choose, you'll get to fight them both.

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The Empire of Japan made a critical and costly mistake in 1941. Today I follow with much joy the new democratic Japan's rebuilding of a very capable Navy by a great seapower. I am most glad that this new Japan is an ally and hoepfully a good one in any future Pacific war (re: CDR Sal's recent and most educationg posts). .

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Submarines once!

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I have it on good authority that the Takao made one final sortie out of Singapore in 1947 to take on a massive threat to the Japanese Home Islands. She went down with all hands after an honorable and courageous battle against overwhelming odds.

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Well done. Leading Seaman Magennis also served in Operation Source, the use of earlier midget submarines against the German Navy in Norway.

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Anybody who was crew of X Boats or Chariots was full bore for sure. I had occasion in 1983 to be at a RN party where one of the guests was the retired CAPT RN who was responsible for the training base for Chariots and X Boats (and, I believe, explosive divers). He was astonished that I, a USN CDR , had even heard of X Boats! We had a very nice conversation--with Scotch. Very unassuming, but admitted undying and unlimited admiration for all of his students. A rather large proportion of those students did not survive the war.

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There are just some jobs/missions that the people involved must have thought "it seemed like a good idea at the time." in retrospect. BZ, and fullbore for sure, especially considering their awards weren't posthumous.

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Fullbore. Recently had the chance to visit Royal Navy Submarine Museum in Portsmouth and see the sole surviving wartime X-Craft up close - a fiendishly effective craft for those intrepid young JOs aspiring to “early command” opportunities.

On a related note, there’s a couple of good reads out there on the subject, including the biography of another Midget VC who went on to one heck of post-war career: https://www.amazon.com/Midget-Submarine-Commander-Godfrey-Place/dp/1848848005

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A Big A$$ Full Bore. shoulda been VCs all around. The description reminds me of when I was a volunteer docent for the CSS Hunley in ChuckTown SC after I retired. How you got men to WILLINGLY step up for such a mission is beyond me. We need more of that grit today.

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I actually served on the Hunley and survived to talk about it…

Ok the Marine detachment USS Hunley (AS-31) home port Naval weapons station North Charleston…

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He who dares wins.

They made heroic men those days.

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Giants among men

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Where do we get such men. I fear the well from which they come is no longer very deep.

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A rain puddle in a parking lot

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Full bore, indeed! How do you get balls that big to fit into a midget submarine? The Aussies menaced the harborage at Singapore on two other occasions. One a failure (1944), the other a rousing success (Operation Jaywick).

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Astonishing navigation. I assume eyes and compass. Periscope up, mark, back down. I should read the AAR, comments?

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BZ

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Many compliments to this read. You are the Paul Harvey of naval history.

“And now you know; the rest of the story…

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I have always felt the Takao class deckhouse looks a lot like a Burke and even more like a Kongo, Atago, or Maya.

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