They were ready, and the Navy was ready because the mobilization had begun in May of 1941. It was slower paced, and mostly in manning the mothballed ships from the Great War and new construction, but still a growing force.
"All that less than a year after the war started." I don't mean to be a nitpicker here, but...I assume you meant to write, "All that less than a year after the war started FOR US."
Your response seems to implicitly concede my point. Had you initially written "...after America entered the War" or even "...after the War came to America" I would not have made my observation.
Incidentally I, too, am an American. Not that I'm entirely clear on why you think that's germane to the discussion. Would my cavil have less force if I were a subject of one of the earlier belligerents?
His audience is predominantly Naval Professionals who understand the context. Dec 8th marks the entry of the subject ship into WWII and is less than one year.
Well, I don't know if fifteen years as a civilian buying guns and bombs for the Air Navy qualifies me to call myself a "Naval Professional," but as a student of history with an emphasis on military history, I still think it's an incorrect usage.
Funny thing, we were still getting our asses kicked in the Battle of the Atlantic, still figuring out how to fight the Japanese, losing at Tassafaronga and had the ability to launch an invasion 3300 NM from Norfolk.
Yes. A proper country that reacted to the disaster on the western front in May 1940 with the Two-Ocean Navy Act in July 1940 and the Engineering Defense Training program of October 1940. Amazing how fast you can move if you're motivated by a serious threat and unburdened by word processors.
Her sister heavy cruisers USS Astoria, Vincennes and Quincy would be sunk at the Battle of Savo Island. Aesthetic lines but not as aesthetic and dangerous as the Baltimore class heavy cruisers or post war Des Moines class which were the epitome of that classification of warship.
Those ships had already been sunk at Savo Island three months earlier, along with HMAS Canberra. Only a few days after this war diary entry, the terrible naval slugging match at Guadalcanal would culminate with the two naval battles of Guadalcanal and associated air action of November 13th-15th.
"and a report received that seven out of ten 1000 lb bombs had hit her. " What has always amazed me about WWII naval engagements is the amount of punishment ships took and still continued to float and/or continue to fight. The best example I can recall is Taffy 3 and the Sammy B.
I'm not sure anything we have today other than a CVN could absorb 1 or more 1000 lb bombs and continue in the fight. Maybe next Sinkex will be a decommed LCS and we can see some real results.
The Forrestal and Enterprise were each badly mauled by a single Zuni rocket.
Given the persistent stories of a recent near hit by the Houthis on the Ike, and the attack the other day on the Lincoln, folks need to be sure they are not living in the dream world that carriers are somehow "Invincible"...
Fact is, the last one seriously attacked was nearly 80 years ago.
Since then, seems no one sees a problem with this...
They were ready, and the Navy was ready because the mobilization had begun in May of 1941. It was slower paced, and mostly in manning the mothballed ships from the Great War and new construction, but still a growing force.
"All that less than a year after the war started." I don't mean to be a nitpicker here, but...I assume you meant to write, "All that less than a year after the war started FOR US."
I am an American. That is an American cruiser. The war started for the USA in DEC 1941.
Your response seems to implicitly concede my point. Had you initially written "...after America entered the War" or even "...after the War came to America" I would not have made my observation.
Incidentally I, too, am an American. Not that I'm entirely clear on why you think that's germane to the discussion. Would my cavil have less force if I were a subject of one of the earlier belligerents?
His audience is predominantly Naval Professionals who understand the context. Dec 8th marks the entry of the subject ship into WWII and is less than one year.
Well, I don't know if fifteen years as a civilian buying guns and bombs for the Air Navy qualifies me to call myself a "Naval Professional," but as a student of history with an emphasis on military history, I still think it's an incorrect usage.
Then I respectfully agree to disagree in this particular context.
Pedantic--
"Like a pedant, overly concerned with formal rules and trivial points of learning. "
I certainly agree with your use of the word "cavil".
Cavil
" To argue or find fault over trivial matters; raise petty objections. synonym: quibble.
Similar: quibble To quibble about; point out petty flaws in. To raise captious and frivolous objections; to find fault without good reason. "
Funny thing, we were still getting our asses kicked in the Battle of the Atlantic, still figuring out how to fight the Japanese, losing at Tassafaronga and had the ability to launch an invasion 3300 NM from Norfolk.
BZ indeed.
"We used to be a proper country" as they say.
Yes. A proper country that reacted to the disaster on the western front in May 1940 with the Two-Ocean Navy Act in July 1940 and the Engineering Defense Training program of October 1940. Amazing how fast you can move if you're motivated by a serious threat and unburdened by word processors.
Her sister heavy cruisers USS Astoria, Vincennes and Quincy would be sunk at the Battle of Savo Island. Aesthetic lines but not as aesthetic and dangerous as the Baltimore class heavy cruisers or post war Des Moines class which were the epitome of that classification of warship.
Those ships had already been sunk at Savo Island three months earlier, along with HMAS Canberra. Only a few days after this war diary entry, the terrible naval slugging match at Guadalcanal would culminate with the two naval battles of Guadalcanal and associated air action of November 13th-15th.
USS Astoria, Vincennes and Quincy are New Orleans class heavy cruisers.
What?
No environmental assessments were done prior to the engagement?
And we didn't calibrate our response to limit the damage to a single truck?
Time to get back to fighting a war like we did 80 years ago.
In 'Fullbore" manner.
"and a report received that seven out of ten 1000 lb bombs had hit her. " What has always amazed me about WWII naval engagements is the amount of punishment ships took and still continued to float and/or continue to fight. The best example I can recall is Taffy 3 and the Sammy B.
I'm not sure anything we have today other than a CVN could absorb 1 or more 1000 lb bombs and continue in the fight. Maybe next Sinkex will be a decommed LCS and we can see some real results.
Full Bore Augusta and crew.
To be fair, a single 1,000 bomb would take a WWII carrier out of the fight as well.
IJN Akagi was lost to a single 1K lb bomb.
The Princeton was sunk by the after effects of a 500 lb bomb.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/USS_Princeton_%28CVL-23%29_burning_on_24_October_1944_%2880-G-287970%29.jpg
The Franklin was devastated, incurred the second largest loss of life aboard a USN ship, and nearly sunk by one 500 lb bomb (long thought to be two).
https://lex-for-lexington.tumblr.com/post/172632003053/uss-santa-fe-cl-60-assisting-uss-franklin/amp
The Forrestal and Enterprise were each badly mauled by a single Zuni rocket.
Given the persistent stories of a recent near hit by the Houthis on the Ike, and the attack the other day on the Lincoln, folks need to be sure they are not living in the dream world that carriers are somehow "Invincible"...
Fact is, the last one seriously attacked was nearly 80 years ago.
Since then, seems no one sees a problem with this...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/011030-N-2383B-503_Bomb_Farm.jpg/157px-011030-N-2383B-503_Bomb_Farm.jpg
Beautiful ships, indeed. And fullbore crews!