Naw. That one was 3 feet from the water and was slid down a set of inclined ramps. Falling 5 ft. Our vessel is 100 feet from the water. It's on rails? Don't see any tracks?
That photo is from the ex-VT Halter Marine in Pascaguala that was acquired by Bollinger Shipyards in 2022. Can't see in photo but that site has a 225 meter long tilt beam launch system under the hull under construction capable of handling vessels up to 50 thousand dwt. Ship is built longitudinally along the beam system; when ready for launch, long before fully completed, it is moved sideways on multiple tracks (as you guessed but can't make out at this distance) towards water's edge where you can see some wooden launch ramps. They will need to place more wooden ramps towards the stern before launch. Then tilt beam system, which has been horizontal for construction, is tilted; then down the ramps and giant splash.
I hope you'll ask your guest how and why, during his long career in proximity to those in power, the country today is not better prepared to face the challenges of an unfriendly world. Is it fair to charge him with failing to effect the changes he, you, and others here clearly recognize as essential to our national security?
In once sense this neglect I have always found odd. Unless we are going to war with Mexico or Canada any logistical movement will involve sealift. To deploy any sizable division level force will
mean hundreds of vehicles and the "iron mountain" of ammo, fuel, parts, mobile infrastructure and all else. I am sure the folks deployed would like some rations and a coffee maker to...8-) I dont see us doing this by airlifting two Abrams or Bradleys at a time on a C5 Galaxy being a winning stratagy.
In the Cold War Army's Armored force we were always hoping for Mexico. Canada was too cold and Canuck tankers shot well.
Mexico?
- Weather? check
- Drive to the war? check
- pretty girls? check
- easy language to learn? Check
- home for weekends? check
After all, how many T62's did they have?
PS: It is an iron mountain. I always got attached to mech infantry. Even they had no concept. I once asked for a can of 50weight engine oil with the next fueling run. I got a 1 qt can when I was expecting a 5 gallon jerry can
Try to explain what a Jerry Can is to a 20 something these and why these are filled and on your 4x4 before you go off roading 8) But indeed you need LOTS of stuff in shipping container quantities and its not gunna come in little
In my 5 tank platoon, we each carried 2, five gallon cans on the bustle rack. Each tank carried a plastic one with water. My platoon SGT carried 5 gallons of 90 weight tranny oil, and the other 4 of us carried a can of 30 to 50 weight engine oil, depending on the weather.
The entire infrastructure of the United States needs reform not just the maritime portion which is dear to our hearts. The problems are mismanagement and a lack of money. What can you expect from political appointees who know nothing about the sectors of the economy that they are supposed to oversee? Do I really have to name names? Also, think about what could have been done with the trillions that were used to create Jeffersonian democracies in Afghanistan, Iraq and now Ukraine.
Unfortunately, Americans have forgotten that we are a maritime nation and that is the result of neglecting history, offshoring work that some find monotonous, tedious, and otherwise unpleasant. I remember growing up in a country with a sense of purpose and adventure. I remember playing on the docks and aboard the ships that called on our port. (No TWIC required back in the 60’s)
Life today is very sanitary. Milk comes from a carton. Food and clothing comes from a store. Remember all those great educational films? The ones sponsored and made by industry? Railroads, shipping lines, trucking companies, oil companies, airlines, Caterpillar, NASA, the Navy? Yes, those are the kinds of sparks that are missing today. There are a lot of ignorant, educated people out here in the world. They are ignorant for a few reasons, but one reason is that they have never been exposed to what some view as the unglamorous, gritty side of life. They just have no idea of what is out there beyond their own little bubble.
Our friends at gCaptain have been working to get the word out for years and I am even seeing some results out here locally on the Left Coast.
I'm replying again because I think its critical some folks understand just how MUCH these amounts are. I have done inventory in tech industries and in my miguided youth worked at a mid sized airport. One job was to drive the tanker truck out with my manager and refuel the airliners. After refueling a 737 I pondered that impressive number on the log sheet as we filled out the paperwork. As The Drill SGT observes...even a platoon of tanks uses even small quanities at GALLON sizes and I would assume these quantities come through a supply train that itself needs oil and fuel supplies to... Ships move this stuff...
forgive this Landsman's question, but how do they get that bulk hauler into the water?
Wait for a very high tide.
Seriously: https://www.yachtsinternational.com/videos/390-foot-cargo-ship-launched-sideways-thrills-spectators
Naw. That one was 3 feet from the water and was slid down a set of inclined ramps. Falling 5 ft. Our vessel is 100 feet from the water. It's on rails? Don't see any tracks?
That photo is from the ex-VT Halter Marine in Pascaguala that was acquired by Bollinger Shipyards in 2022. Can't see in photo but that site has a 225 meter long tilt beam launch system under the hull under construction capable of handling vessels up to 50 thousand dwt. Ship is built longitudinally along the beam system; when ready for launch, long before fully completed, it is moved sideways on multiple tracks (as you guessed but can't make out at this distance) towards water's edge where you can see some wooden launch ramps. They will need to place more wooden ramps towards the stern before launch. Then tilt beam system, which has been horizontal for construction, is tilted; then down the ramps and giant splash.
I hope you'll ask your guest how and why, during his long career in proximity to those in power, the country today is not better prepared to face the challenges of an unfriendly world. Is it fair to charge him with failing to effect the changes he, you, and others here clearly recognize as essential to our national security?
In once sense this neglect I have always found odd. Unless we are going to war with Mexico or Canada any logistical movement will involve sealift. To deploy any sizable division level force will
mean hundreds of vehicles and the "iron mountain" of ammo, fuel, parts, mobile infrastructure and all else. I am sure the folks deployed would like some rations and a coffee maker to...8-) I dont see us doing this by airlifting two Abrams or Bradleys at a time on a C5 Galaxy being a winning stratagy.
In the Cold War Army's Armored force we were always hoping for Mexico. Canada was too cold and Canuck tankers shot well.
Mexico?
- Weather? check
- Drive to the war? check
- pretty girls? check
- easy language to learn? Check
- home for weekends? check
After all, how many T62's did they have?
PS: It is an iron mountain. I always got attached to mech infantry. Even they had no concept. I once asked for a can of 50weight engine oil with the next fueling run. I got a 1 qt can when I was expecting a 5 gallon jerry can
Try to explain what a Jerry Can is to a 20 something these and why these are filled and on your 4x4 before you go off roading 8) But indeed you need LOTS of stuff in shipping container quantities and its not gunna come in little
one quart cans...8-)
In my 5 tank platoon, we each carried 2, five gallon cans on the bustle rack. Each tank carried a plastic one with water. My platoon SGT carried 5 gallons of 90 weight tranny oil, and the other 4 of us carried a can of 30 to 50 weight engine oil, depending on the weather.
The entire infrastructure of the United States needs reform not just the maritime portion which is dear to our hearts. The problems are mismanagement and a lack of money. What can you expect from political appointees who know nothing about the sectors of the economy that they are supposed to oversee? Do I really have to name names? Also, think about what could have been done with the trillions that were used to create Jeffersonian democracies in Afghanistan, Iraq and now Ukraine.
Unfortunately, Americans have forgotten that we are a maritime nation and that is the result of neglecting history, offshoring work that some find monotonous, tedious, and otherwise unpleasant. I remember growing up in a country with a sense of purpose and adventure. I remember playing on the docks and aboard the ships that called on our port. (No TWIC required back in the 60’s)
Life today is very sanitary. Milk comes from a carton. Food and clothing comes from a store. Remember all those great educational films? The ones sponsored and made by industry? Railroads, shipping lines, trucking companies, oil companies, airlines, Caterpillar, NASA, the Navy? Yes, those are the kinds of sparks that are missing today. There are a lot of ignorant, educated people out here in the world. They are ignorant for a few reasons, but one reason is that they have never been exposed to what some view as the unglamorous, gritty side of life. They just have no idea of what is out there beyond their own little bubble.
Our friends at gCaptain have been working to get the word out for years and I am even seeing some results out here locally on the Left Coast.
I'm replying again because I think its critical some folks understand just how MUCH these amounts are. I have done inventory in tech industries and in my miguided youth worked at a mid sized airport. One job was to drive the tanker truck out with my manager and refuel the airliners. After refueling a 737 I pondered that impressive number on the log sheet as we filled out the paperwork. As The Drill SGT observes...even a platoon of tanks uses even small quanities at GALLON sizes and I would assume these quantities come through a supply train that itself needs oil and fuel supplies to... Ships move this stuff...